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From: "Mark Dixon" <jj@da*.co*>
To: "John Purcell" <omegasac@ei*.ne*>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: RE: Backplate harness
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 13:35:24 -0000
I didn't say I got the kit off in the boat - pretty much impossible with
twin 15s on my back! - I take the rig off in the water alongside the rib
which is trickier than with a soft pack / quick release but as many others
have said if you don't overtighten the shoulder straps it is still
relatively straightforward.

Regards

Mark

PS I am not a great fan of RIB diving on deep UK wrecks - I prefer a
hardboat (preferably with a lift) anytime!

-----Original Message-----
From: John Purcell [mailto:omegasac@ei*.ne*]
Sent: 07 December 2000 17:52
To: Mark Dixon; Bob Cooper
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Backplate harness


Mark, you dont take the rig off on a rib, you take it off on the surface
before you get back into the rib.Mind you, if you can get into the rib with
your kit still on, you can do as you think best :-)
Me, I doff my kit in water and it`s taken back on board by the coxn/skipper.
Best,
Jack
"I know you think you understood what I meant,
but what you heard is not what I said!"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Dixon" <jj@da*.co*>
To: "Bob Cooper" <bob@bo*.fs*.co*.uk*>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 9:13 PM
Subject: RE: Backplate harness


> Whatever the DIR guys say it is definitely more difficult to get a
> harness/backplate off on a RIB than a transpac!!   Don't believe that just
> drop your shoulder and flip it over your head bullshit
>
> However the in water stability, safety (no quick releases to snap open)
and
> the ability to use the rig for all circumstances mean that for me it is a
no
> brainer to use the backplate / harness on all my dives.  Yes it is a bit
> trickier to get off on a RIB - best to remove wrist mounted gauges /
slates
> first and don't have the straps too tight - then it is perfectly feasible.
>
> Finally, getting the rig on is no problem.
>
> Regards
>
> Mark
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Bob Cooper [mailto:bob@bo*.fs*.co*.uk*]
>   Sent: 06 December 2000 12:10
>   To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
>   Subject: Backplate harness
>
>
>   Thanks for your replies to my previous post "which backplate?".
>
>   I have another question regarding a backplate/harness/wing arrangement:
>
>   My current kit configuration uses a Transpac II and twin steel 10's or
> 12's.  Most of my diving is in a dry suit from RIB's off the UK coast.
> Donning the Transpac is made relatively easy because it has adjustable
> shoulder straps.  However, this is sometimes difficult in a rolling RIB in
> UK waters despite the extra length of the shoulder straps. When everything
> is pulled tight it is very comfortable in and out of the water.  Removing
> the Transpac in the water is easy because it has quick releases on both
> shoulders and on the chest.  It is a simple matter to remove my kit
> alongside the RIB and have the crew haul it aboard.
>
>   A one piece harness has no releases right? and it is not adjustable (at
> least not whilst wearing it).  Therefore it must be very difficult to put
on
> (especially in a rolling RIB) and virtually impossible to remove in the
> water (especially in a dry suit with a thick undersuit).  If the shoulder
> straps are left loose, making donning and doffing easier, this would
result
> in a sloppy fit.  If the shoulder straps are adjusted so that the harness
> fits snugly it must be virtually impossible to don and doff?
>
>   Am I missing something here?
>
>   Any advice would me much appreciated.
>


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