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----- Original Message ----- From: Skip MacElhannon <skipmac@co*.co*> Sent: 19 November, 2000 18:25 Subject: Re: Deep Thoughts > It is quite clear from the book and articles written by Gilliam published > in various dive magazines that he advocates drinking and diving. He > specifically complains in an article in Rodale's that he is not allowed to > have a beer during his surface interval on public dive boats. I only saw the one article and it has been a while. Perhaps I subconciously faired the information to a known curve. I'm certainly in no position to disagree with someone who has seen more than that one article. > I have also read an article by Gilliam bemoaning the fact that on a dive > trip he had gotten down to seeds and stems in his stash. Now if Gilliam > wants to smoke pot on his own time that's his business, but I think it is > highly irresponsible for such a public figure to make these comments in an > article about diving. Leapin' lizards! You've got me sold there. > Also, your attempt to rationalize Gilliam's argument that one should use > that last 750 psi in the tanks is totally invalidated when you consider > that this comment was in a book on technical diving where deco, overhead > environment, etc demand the use of conservative air rules. "attempt to rationalize"? You've been watching too much of the election coverage. Come back to us, Skip. :) What did you think I meant by, "Perhaps I was reading something into the article."? I was just calling it as I saw it based on what was in front of me. It is rare for me to champion or bash anyone. Perhaps you have me confused with one of the trolls around here. > At 01:57 PM 11/19/00 -0500, you wrote: > > > >I have seen this before and I've never seen the book so it must have been in > >a Dive Training article that Gilliam wrote. > > > >Perhaps I was having an attack of "benefit of the doubt disease" at the time > >(they don't happen often), but my sense of what Gilliam was saying in the > >article was that blowing off a safety stop to get on the boat with 750 psi > >is just plain stupid and that you really shouldn't chug down five cups of > >coffee and a six-pack of Jolt cola and then claim you are diving "drug > >free." > > > >I agree with both of the above positions. Perhaps I was reading something > >into the article. > > > >Don Burke > >Chesapeake, Virginia > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: <TGunther@co*.co*> > >To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > >Sent: 17 November, 2000 18:09 > >Subject: Re: Deep Thoughts > > > > > > > > > > By the way, another member just pointed out to me that the same book > >encourages > > > drinking before diving and surfacing with just enough air to prevent water > >from > > > getting in one's tanks. Here are the excerpts: > > > > > > "[Why must we] always be back on board the dive boat with a minimum > >of > > > 750psi? Can you cash in that for credit at the air fill Bank & Trust? > >..... > > > wouldn't it make more sense to suggest arriving at the decom bar or the > > > anchor line at about 15' with 750psi remaining? Then use up the air for a > >nice > > > 5-7 minute safety stop. As long as you don't completely drain the > >cylinder > > > there is no chance of getting water in it ... [so] why waste 25% of your > >air. > > > Use it underwater." ---Deep Diving, Bret Gilliam, pg 310 > > > > > > "[Who says] you can't dive if you have a beer for lunch? This is > >the real > > > beauty of twisted logic ... consider for a moment that alcohol has the > >same > > > effect on anti-diuretic hormone (ADH) suppression as does caffeine in soft > > > drinks, coffee and iced tea. So until the storm troopers want to curtail > >the > > > diving of everyone having a cup of Columbia's finest over breakfast or > >the guy > > > who knocks back a six pack of Coke routinely, I suggest this may win the > >Medal > > > for Pious Absurdity ..." ---Deep Diving, Bret Gilliam, pg 311 > > > > > > Mind you, this book is directed towards technical divers doing very deep > >dives. > > > Simply amazing. > > > > > > Tod > > > > > > -- > > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > > > > > >____________NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_________ > >Download Now http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html > >Request a CDROM 1-800-333-3633 > >___________________________________________________________ > >-- > >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > _____NetZero Free Internet Access and Email______ http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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