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From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: "Carlos Arruda Accioly" <@domain.com.br>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: RE: argon location was RE: Pony's and deep
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 05:57:11 -0500
Carlos, when I email you directly it bounces back. Maybe you can get list
messages. The small bottle has a very large belt loop so it can slide over
the buckle, the knife, and the d-ring. It is then held back away form the
d-ring by a tiny loop of bungee that comes out of the webbing slot in the
backplate and loops over the butt of the bottle.

You just can not wreck dive with shit all over you , it has to be tight.

In cave you need a big bottle - you are up and down and a cave dive implies
a longer bottom time = need more argon. Small cave implies sidemount and the
wreck argon.

This is no big deal, Carlos, it is common sense. One big problem that DIR
has is that many who are "copying" it have no clue and do not have the real
story. I have used the dual argon rig for 9 years. Why is it now that you
are the first to ask me and as far as I remember, I am the DIR guy.

It only took me getting wired and stuck in a wreck one time by the argon
bottle to change that. Sure I got the bottle off by the bungees, but the
wires were all over that thing and I was silted out. I wasted five minutes
of the dive untangling myself at 300 feet, and that cured me.

Ignore the cave DIR guys - most of them think a wreck is what happens on the
highway, and then they look like dorks when they show up with the bullshit.


From: Carlos Arruda Accioly [mailto:caccioly@do*.co*.br*]
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 7:39 AM
To: Trey; techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: argon location was RE: Pony's and deep


G,
This is the first I've heard of this wreck placement of the argon bottle.
Could you explain this bungee loop pulled over the butt of the tank better?
It doesn't sound very clean to me, which usually means I don't understand
it properly.
Thanks,
Carlos


----- Original Message -----
From: "Trey" <trey@ne*.co*>
To: "Ian Puleston" <DiverIan@pa*.ne*>; <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 8:46 AM
Subject: argon location was RE: Pony's and deep


> Argon bottle is Velcro strapped to the side of the doubles , and it has no
> reg on it, wise guy ( read the whole fucking thing before you spout off
like
> a punk child ). It can easily be removed and replaced in a "keyed"
situation
> in a cave.
>
> For wreck the DIR location is upside down on the left hip on a big belt
loop
> ( like the canister light only bigger so it slides over the d -ring and
> knife easily to be removed ) and is held back against the back plate with
a
> bungee loop that is pulled over the butt of the tank. A smaller argon
bottle
> is generally used for wreck but the normal 13 cu ft at 2015 is fine.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ian Puleston [mailto:DiverIan@pa*.ne*]
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 12:46 PM
> To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
> Subject: RE: Pony's and deep air
>
>
> > >DIR is against the use of ponies, so you can leave that part out.
> > >Exact reasons why would be welcome.
> >
> > - Ponies are an entanglement hazard.  They're hard to see and hard
> >   or impossible to remove underwater in the event they get entangled.
> >   Also, they can "key" you into a restriction where being unable to
> >   remove it could cost you your life.
>
> So what is the DIR placement of an argon bottle - I thought it was fixed
to
> the doubles?
>
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