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Financially speaking, the Agencies do what we tell them to do, not the opposite. We control the agencies with the very basis of their existence: M O N E Y. As long as people keep buying shit gear, and accepting shit training for adequate, nothing will change. Except among the few who question, learn and apply. The few who, during their "Advanced" or "Deep Air" course, hear the little voice say "This is bullshit." There are a million reasons why the "majority" of recreational divers "cant" be taught to use hyperoxic trimix. Problems with, and dangers of, the gas are not among these "reasons." The problem with teaching this subject is that there is an enormous amount of un-learning to be done. If you are in the group who considers the way to handle problems is a rocket ascent, then I would agree. If you think its possible to decompress adequately from any dive on air, I would agree. 25/35 has better NDL limits than air for 90% of recreational profiles, and any deco obligation acquired on 99% of single tank dives is quickly addressed with a minute at 30 and a horizontal 5 at 20 (called a "safety stop" conventionally). (kick me in the bag when I am wrong here, George) I have turned on approximately 30 people to hyperoxic trimix (usually 25/35 or 32/30), and they are converts to a man. There is no big mystery or magic. What there is, as GI has pointed out ad nauseum, is bullshit and fears based in ignorance. People have the wrong information so thoroughly implanted in their minds that acceptance of these concepts is like pulling teeth. It requires that you look at a majority of the wonderful knowledge you worked to acquire, and paid good money for, be tossed out the window. A task not easy for many male ego's. We are more comfortable believing that rack of shingle's makes "Super Diver". That's why the industry is full of bullshit, ego stroking handles like "Divemaster" "Master SCUBA Diver Trainer" "Master Diver". The man I studied arts with said "A "master" is actually a slave to one style." It is similar (before anyone gets shitty, I am a German Jew) to the way that the Jews were led to the gas chambers. No one would believe that this was actually happening. "They cant be loading us into cattle cars to be exterminated, they are just relocating us till the war is over." One girl, who escaped from a mass grave at Treblinka, returned to the town she was taken from, bullet hole crawling with ants and all, to tell the towns people what she had seen, and she was committed to an asylum. With breathing, bleeding, trembling proof in their hands, they chose to believe what was easy. And they were all exterminated, including the witness. Even as our military heard the rumors, and actually found the camps, they were unbelieving. Searching for a reason these camps existed, other than the obvious. Ike had to go visit *personally* because he didn't believe the reports he was getting. When he left, he ordered that all military personnel in the region visit these camps, because "Someday, someone will try to say this never happened." (or words to that effect) In our realm, GI is that person. The RSTC agencies would have him muzzled, fired, committed, shot, hung and 30 days in the electric chair, if they could. He comes here, tells his story, and ridicule, attacks (if he worked in the SCUBA industry, he would have been ruined long ago) against his name, person, business are his reward. I have no problem, at all, understanding why he is *such* an abrasive asshole. What I have trouble understanding is why he even bothers to try and teach us at all. It would be infinitely easier for him to just go his own way, do his thing, and laugh at the idiots who kill themselves trying to do what he does. And tell us all to fuck off when we ask "How the hell can you guys do that????" Bottom line: These gas's are *safer* than air in every way. Helium doesn't automatically mean "deco" anymore than the use of air or nitrox. If you are diving to PADI, TDI, IANTD tables, you are doing nothing more than crapshoot decompression, based on wrong thought, padded by lawyers and insurance types so that *most* people will get away with it. Might have to take a mid afternoon nap, but that's just all the fresh air, right? Additionally, there truly is no such thing as a no decompression dive, *especially* on air! Before all you people get out your pitchforks and torches, and spend hours pontificating reasons why HeN2O2 will never be mainstream, try the gas a few times. We were blending some gas up this weekend, and as the He was going into a buds dubs, he said "That even sounds different than air." Dinky Dave was standing by, and in his best Irish accent, added: "That's the Divil goin in!" Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: Matthew R Bauer <laocoon@et*.or*> To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com> Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 2:07 PM Subject: Rec Trimix > > I've help teach god knows how many rec divers to dive at the > University of Wisconsin - Madison. The truth is that most of them do not > want to deco. They either don't see the need to or don't like the > concept. My point is this, all this talk about getting other agencies to > teach rec trimix just doesn't pan out. Financially speaking the agencies > will never go for it. They would have to charge an enormous amount to the > student, and for that price you might as well go to gue. The only people > the agencies are going to get are strokes that gue wouldn't take. Second, > like I started to say earlier, how many people really want to do mix? I > just don't see the masses flocking to trimix, with its increased > complexity, investment, and planning (even though it would be a better > gas). Wouldn't a better solution be what already exists. Have PADI teach > you your 'Cozumel Diving', and have gue teach you 'DIR'. Afterall you > don't learn formula one driving in drivers ed, you go to a different > class. > > Matt Bauer -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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