If you guys could have been in the NACD Training Committee meeting ten years
ago when Mouth tried to tell Parker that he could outbreath Bill Gavin by
going to Tai Chi breathing, you would be rolling on the floor. Parker
laughed in his face.

Gavin could outbreathe anyone under normal circumstances, and when the shit
really hit the fan, then he got to his best. When he thought he was going to
die in his worst situations, his breathing rate never changed. That comes
form long term conditioning and balls, not from Tai Chi.

I found him in a total siltout with 100 psi in his tanks and he wrote me a
note before he even told me he was low on gas or  I even noticed his
pressure gauge, which I saw facing me - the guy was breathing normally, and
had just spent 45 minutes behind a collapsed wall of shit sure he was going
to die.

I did judo and wrestling from 12 years old through college, and the only
thing that works is conditioning and knowing what you have to do when you
have to do it instinctively, and not letting anything else get in the way of
executing that. Focus and conditioning. Tai Chi breathing is crap, and the
problem is that the same guys who teach Tai Chi breathing teach fear of
diving.


Original Message -----
From: "Paul Braunbehrens" <Bakalite@ba*.co*>
To: "pina" <pina3@be*.ne*>; "Hungry Hill" <hungryh@nc*.ne*>;
<techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 1:20 AM
Subject: Re:Some idiot WAS RE: Clarification cycle cell typo


> I agree, George was right on with his description.  I think the idiot
> with the "typo" stick up his behind misread George and assumed he
> made a bunch of stuff up.
>
> It's hard to figure out what George is saying sometimes though, it
> always seems like he's incredibly pissed off AND in a hurry...but
> he's right.
>
> Hey George, maybe you should try some Tai Chi breathing to help you relax
;-)
>
> pina wrote:
> ~
> >Look, moron, if you had read the entire description and not just the part
> >that was convenient to you, you would have seen that in the description
> >presented, nothing even resembling a cycle was described at all.
> >
> >However, the folding of a bioconcave disk was described, which would then
be
> >in the shape of a "sickle" - thus the name of the disease and the reason
for
> >which the word (although not the right word) "cycle" was in quotes.  This
> >was a reference to the fact that the word which is the name of the
disease
> >is directly pertinent to the process of the disease itself.
> >
> >So fucking what if he messed up the word.  This is a clear cut case of
brain
> >fart,  and is in no way whatsoever similar to the "Male Answer Syndrome"
you
> >define below.  By your own definition, tough guy, based on the fact that
ALL
> >of the supporting information was accurate and unfabricated, this is the
> >case.  You need to just stick Michael J. Black's dick back in your mouth
and
> >shut the fuck up.
> >
> >--pina
> >
> >
> >>  >   Red blood cells are biconcave disks that fold when needed to pass
> >through
> >>  > the smallest capillaries, many of which supply the "fastest" tissues
> >  the
> >>  > best perfused). Nitrogen under pressure causes a surface tension
effect
> >on
> >>  > the red cells which makes them rigid, and they then either will not
pass
> >or
> >>  > they trigger the stretch receptors in the capillaries and thus a
whole
> >>  > litany of immune system reactions, which then effectively shunt the
> >blood
> >>  > away from or around these areas and results in dcs and dcs-like
> >symptoms,
> >>  > often referred to as "flu like symptoms" which are actually far more
> >>  > insidious.
> >>  >
> >>  > Helium in sufficient amounts seems to ameliorate this effect. The
> >stronger
> >>  > the mix, the less the effect.
> >>  >
> >>  > Deep air diving is like giving yourself a case of Cycle Cell
Anemia -
> >that
> >>  > is what happens when cells "cycle" and explains the pain that its
> >victims
> >>  > feel, as well as the loss of capacity associated therewith.
> >>  >
> >>  > Just one more thing that the dumb fucks that teach diving don't
bother
> >>  > telling you. Great bunch. This is right up there with "unearned hit"
in
> >the
> >>  > irresponsible, cavalier disregard for human life displayed by the
dive
> >>  > "instruction" agencies, especially the ones who teach deep air,
require
> >deep
> >>  > air, and used to require much deeper deep air until they lost a few
> >>  > lawsuits. This shows you how fucking stupid some of these idiots
really
> >are.
> >>  >
> >>  > My cave instructor made me watch a film on how it works , so I got
saved
> >>  > form it years ago. His favorite saying to me ( besides "Don't Break
Rule
> >>  > Number One")  was "I am going to teach you real world, and if you
tell
> >>  > anyone I did any of this, I will have to  deny it". You see , he was
my
> >>  > friend, not just my instructor. I got lucky, you got fucked.
> >>  >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Hungry Hill [mailto:hungryh@nc*.ne*]
> >Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 1:28 PM
> >To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
> >Subject: Clarification cycle cell typo
> >
> >
> >1) a typo is when you hit the wrong key on the keyboard, but you know the
> >meaning of the word and it's spelling.
> >i.e. "suckle or sicjle or sicklr cell anemia"
> >
> >2) a misspelling is when you know the word and it's meaning but can't
> >remember the letters in the word.
> >i.e. "syckle cell anemia"
> >
> >3) a brain fart is when you know what you're talking about but you mix up
a
> >word.
> >i.e. "cycle cell anemia"
> >
> >4) B.S. AKA "Male Answer Syndrome" is when you fabricate supporting
> >material to enhance the illusion that you know what you are talking about
> >when you don't.
> >i.e. "that is what happens when cells "cycle" and explains the pain that
> >its victims feel, as well as the loss of capacity associated therewith."
> >
> >We've been taught to trust you George. Do your best to deserve it.
> >
> >
> >
> >Bruce Bowers
> >film/video composer, multi-instrumentalist
> >Akimbo Music Prod/Hungry Hill Records
> >
> >
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