The cave reversed flow and siphoned violently. Bill Main, Lamar English and
I had just cleared the restriction and were at our 50 foot stop ( we had
been no deeper than 170, and had gradually come up to 110 where the
restriction was ). There was a wall of sand from 110 up to 100. I had to
wrap the line around the clips on Bill Gavin and Parker Turner's 120 deco
bottles up at 110 feet to keep them from sliding into the restriction, which
I did in passing.

I had dropped my scooter with a deco computer on it since the piece of shit
was beeping at me - I think that was the last time I ever used a deco
computer as a bottom timer. It was a Beuchat "Aladin Pro". The cave just
exploded around us and we thought my scooter had run away and gone to the
ceiling and was blowing sand and water in our faces. Bill Main and I rose up
into the source of the flow and reached up blindly trying to grab the
supposed scooter - it was not there. Four minutes later it suddenly stopped.
The scooter was still on the floor and the timer had cleared 50 feet. We
moved up, unsure what had happened.

Above on the surface, we had several divers who were in street clothes -
they had the flu and could not dive. This probably saved their lives. Steve
Irving said the sink dropped a foot, swirled, pulled white water the wrong
way up the spring run, and silted out.

Below, I got sick of decompressing and surfaced. Before I did, I went back
to 110 feet to see if they were back. I saw nothing, but did not realize the
entrance was gone - I just went until I saw their untouched deco bottles.
When I went to get out, Lamar was suspicious of something and went back to
check . Bill Main got out of the water. That is when Gavin and Parker got
through the sand block. The cavern and sink were turning milky as the
restriction opened and blew the silt out of the cave. Lamar surfaced real
fast and whispered to me as I sat floating on the surface , "Parker is
fucked, I found his tanks on the line". I went back down and the cavern was
blitzed now and I could not find Parker, but I found Gavin when I tied in an
did a sweep across the ceiling. I saw he was out of gas on his back and his
stage, and he handed me a slate which said simply, "Parker is dead". I
stared at it. I Looked at his gauge and pulled it to me to be sure : 100
psi. I handed him my wetnotes, "Do you know where your deco gas is?" "No",
but he would not move so I told him I was running a reel from him to the
deco gas and then to the surface and I surfaced at the dock and handed the
reel to Bill Main and told him, "Parker is dead". He said, "That is not
supposed to happen" . Bill Main then jumped in and went back down with Lamar
to move him, I went back nine more times and kept sweeping the cavern
ceiling above the restriction looking for Parker until I ran out of gas.
Lamar and Main pulled Gavin over to the trough and sat with him for three
hours while he decompressed.

It took JJ to get me back cave diving again a month later. He told me ,
"we'll do a nice easy dive". Lamar put his stuff away and did not dive for 8
months. JJ and I did an insane dive and that got me going again. Gavin
stayed out until Feb, when he and I went to Mexico for two weeks and laid a
bunch of line, which did not make us too popular with the locals, but that
got him going again.

Everyone in the WKPP quit. It was down to me, Gavin, Irving and Sherwood and
Jarrod. JJ and I brought in our friends, and rebuilt fro there.

-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Michael [mailto:terry-1@ly*.co*]
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 9:08 AM
To: pina; Hungry Hill; techdiver@aquanaut.com; Paul Braunbehrens; Trey
Subject: Re: Re:Some idiot WAS RE: Clarification cycle cell typo


Very cool,

Tell us about the cave in.
--

On Sun, 15 Oct 2000 06:20:35
 Trey wrote:
>If you guys could have been in the NACD Training Committee meeting ten
years
>ago when Mouth tried to tell Parker that he could outbreath Bill Gavin by
>going to Tai Chi breathing, you would be rolling on the floor. Parker
>laughed in his face.
>
>Gavin could outbreathe anyone under normal circumstances, and when the shit
>really hit the fan, then he got to his best. When he thought he was going
to
>die in his worst situations, his breathing rate never changed. That comes
>form long term conditioning and balls, not from Tai Chi.
>
>I found him in a total siltout with 100 psi in his tanks and he wrote me a
>note before he even told me he was low on gas or  I even noticed his
>pressure gauge, which I saw facing me - the guy was breathing normally, and
>had just spent 45 minutes behind a collapsed wall of shit sure he was going
>to die.
>
>I did judo and wrestling from 12 years old through college, and the only
>thing that works is conditioning and knowing what you have to do when you
>have to do it instinctively, and not letting anything else get in the way
of
>executing that. Focus and conditioning. Tai Chi breathing is crap, and the
>problem is that the same guys who teach Tai Chi breathing teach fear of
>diving.
>
>
>Original Message -----
>From: "Paul Braunbehrens" <Bakalite@ba*.co*>
>To: "pina" <pina3@be*.ne*>; "Hungry Hill" <hungryh@nc*.ne*>;
><techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 1:20 AM
>Subject: Re:Some idiot WAS RE: Clarification cycle cell typo
>
>
>> I agree, George was right on with his description.  I think the idiot
>> with the "typo" stick up his behind misread George and assumed he
>> made a bunch of stuff up.
>>
>> It's hard to figure out what George is saying sometimes though, it
>> always seems like he's incredibly pissed off AND in a hurry...but
>> he's right.
>>
>> Hey George, maybe you should try some Tai Chi breathing to help you relax
>;-)
>>
>> pina wrote:
>> ~
>> >Look, moron, if you had read the entire description and not just the
part
>> >that was convenient to you, you would have seen that in the description
>> >presented, nothing even resembling a cycle was described at all.
>> >
>> >However, the folding of a bioconcave disk was described, which would
then
>be
>> >in the shape of a "sickle" - thus the name of the disease and the reason
>for
>> >which the word (although not the right word) "cycle" was in quotes.
This
>> >was a reference to the fact that the word which is the name of the
>disease
>> >is directly pertinent to the process of the disease itself.
>> >
>> >So fucking what if he messed up the word.  This is a clear cut case of
>brain
>> >fart,  and is in no way whatsoever similar to the "Male Answer Syndrome"
>you
>> >define below.  By your own definition, tough guy, based on the fact that
>ALL
>> >of the supporting information was accurate and unfabricated, this is the
>> >case.  You need to just stick Michael J. Black's dick back in your mouth
>and
>> >shut the fuck up.
>> >
>> >--pina
>> >
>> >
>> >>  >   Red blood cells are biconcave disks that fold when needed to pass
>> >through
>> >>  > the smallest capillaries, many of which supply the "fastest"
tissues
>> >  the
>> >>  > best perfused). Nitrogen under pressure causes a surface tension
>effect
>> >on
>> >>  > the red cells which makes them rigid, and they then either will not
>pass
>> >or
>> >>  > they trigger the stretch receptors in the capillaries and thus a
>whole
>> >>  > litany of immune system reactions, which then effectively shunt the
>> >blood
>> >>  > away from or around these areas and results in dcs and dcs-like
>> >symptoms,
>> >>  > often referred to as "flu like symptoms" which are actually far
more
>> >>  > insidious.
>> >>  >
>> >>  > Helium in sufficient amounts seems to ameliorate this effect. The
>> >stronger
>> >>  > the mix, the less the effect.
>> >>  >
>> >>  > Deep air diving is like giving yourself a case of Cycle Cell
>Anemia -
>> >that
>> >>  > is what happens when cells "cycle" and explains the pain that its
>> >victims
>> >>  > feel, as well as the loss of capacity associated therewith.
>> >>  >
>> >>  > Just one more thing that the dumb fucks that teach diving don't
>bother
>> >>  > telling you. Great bunch. This is right up there with "unearned
hit"
>in
>> >the
>> >>  > irresponsible, cavalier disregard for human life displayed by the
>dive
>> >>  > "instruction" agencies, especially the ones who teach deep air,
>require
>> >deep
>> >>  > air, and used to require much deeper deep air until they lost a few
>> >>  > lawsuits. This shows you how fucking stupid some of these idiots
>really
>> >are.
>> >>  >
>> >>  > My cave instructor made me watch a film on how it works , so I got
>saved
>> >>  > form it years ago. His favorite saying to me ( besides "Don't Break
>Rule
>> >>  > Number One")  was "I am going to teach you real world, and if you
>tell
>> >>  > anyone I did any of this, I will have to  deny it". You see , he
was
>my
>> >>  > friend, not just my instructor. I got lucky, you got fucked.
>> >>  >
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: Hungry Hill [mailto:hungryh@nc*.ne*]
>> >Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 1:28 PM
>> >To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
>> >Subject: Clarification cycle cell typo
>> >
>> >
>> >1) a typo is when you hit the wrong key on the keyboard, but you know
the
>> >meaning of the word and it's spelling.
>> >i.e. "suckle or sicjle or sicklr cell anemia"
>> >
>> >2) a misspelling is when you know the word and it's meaning but can't
>> >remember the letters in the word.
>> >i.e. "syckle cell anemia"
>> >
>> >3) a brain fart is when you know what you're talking about but you mix
up
>a
>> >word.
>> >i.e. "cycle cell anemia"
>> >
>> >4) B.S. AKA "Male Answer Syndrome" is when you fabricate supporting
>> >material to enhance the illusion that you know what you are talking
about
>> >when you don't.
>> >i.e. "that is what happens when cells "cycle" and explains the pain that
>> >its victims feel, as well as the loss of capacity associated therewith."
>> >
>> >We've been taught to trust you George. Do your best to deserve it.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Bruce Bowers
>> >film/video composer, multi-instrumentalist
>> >Akimbo Music Prod/Hungry Hill Records
>> >
>> >
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