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From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: "Wendell Grogan" <wgrogan@dc*.ne*>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>, "Hungry Hill" <hungryh@nc*.ne*>
Subject: Re: Clarification cycle cell typo
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 21:35:03 -0400


Wendell, what I would like to hear from "doc" Black is what steroid he
thinks would either help me cave dive better or represent some competitive
advantage over others in diving , in which case I will get it and use it .
However, I seriously doubt that there is such a thing, and I suspect that
using roids would just run up my heart rate and make gas consumption go to
hell.

I think the "doc" must have seen that article about his boy Batman where the
Bat got bent and his girlfriend or dominatrix or whatever that fat bitch he
drags around with him is had to give him "steroids". Even I, with my lack of
"medical knowledge" , know that this meant corticosteroids, as in
anti-inflammatories, not anabolic steroids. I in fact do use "roids" by that
definition - "Nasacort" , which is awesome for allergies and has zero side
effects , but I do not even use that when I dive , but when I am going to be
in air conditioning or over a rug or carpet.

And yes, if I do make an error, I want to know about it , and if I have
something wrong, I really want to know about it.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Wendell Grogan" <wgrogan@dc*.ne*>
To: "Trey" <trey@ne*.co*>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>; "Hungry Hill" <hungryh@nc*.ne*>
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: Clarification cycle cell typo


> Since you're about my age, I would expect that, had you been using 'roids
since
> college, you would have the following:
> 1) Liver failure
> 2) Liver cancer
> 3) Sleep Apnea
> 4) Cor pulmonale (right side heart failure)
>
> Since this is obviously the case, you should be aware of the fact that you
can
> no longer walk up stairs, stay awake longer than 1 hour at a time, or eat
more
> than a small meal without vomiting.
> What, you say you can still do major dives!?!
> I guess that means either you or Dr. B are wrong!
> Wendell G
>
> Trey wrote:
>
> > WG, the difference is when they don't want the information out there.
There
> > are of course those who will find anything to attack me since they can
not
> > seem to muster any good arguments against what I am reporting or
> > recommending.
> >
> >  Now we have "doc" Mike Black deciding that since I look like I do, that
> > this must be some roid story. I don't know the facts on this, but I will
> > guess that if I had been using roids from the time of that first DIR
tape
> >  the one that they all accuse me of using roids after they see it)
until
> > now, or from the time I played college sports until now , or from their
time
> > that National Geographic called me "muscular" in an article several year
> > ago, that I would not be looking too good now, I'd likely be dead.
Correct
> > me if I am wrong here.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Wendell Grogan" <wgrogan@dc*.ne*>
> > To: "Trey" <trey@ne*.co*>
> > Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>; "Hungry Hill" <hungryh@nc*.ne*>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 11:46 PM
> > Subject: Re: Clarification cycle cell typo
> >
> > > The other approach, which is the one I took was to politely point out
what
> > was
> > > an obvious accidental error and suggest a correction.  No ridicule, no
> > flaming.
> > >
> > > There are times when obvious stupidity needs to be pointed out, and
this
> > group
> > > is certainly not shy about publicly castigating people.  On the other
> > hand, we
> > > really need to act like adults and treat simple mistakes as simple
> > mistakes.
> > > Keep the torching for truly flammable issues. When something is an
> > ideological
> > > plague, it should be sterilized with "extreme prejudice."  But when it
is
> > > obvious that someone "misspoke" why not just treat it as such and not
try
> > to
> > > "stick it" to that person.
> > > Wendell G
> > >
> > > Trey wrote:
> > >
> > > > I picked up on it and corrected it . "Typos" are usually what guys
like
> > you
> > > > come after me for and that is the "short version". If this is all
you
> > can do
> > > > after six years of my stuff on hear, and complain about me not being
> > nice to
> > > > idiots, then I guess I am ok.
> > > >
> > > > You come up with some answers , or in fact, let ANYONE come up with
> > answers
> > > > , and I'll sit back and WRITE THEM DOWN. The problem is you do not
have
> > any,
> > > > but you are obviously intent on being an asshole.
> > > >
> > > > Go ask "doc" Black or his bible , Gilliam's book, anything and see
how
> > those
> > > > answers compare. I have made a serious study of this stuff and bet
my
> > life
> > > > doing it. What the fuck have you done, asshole?
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Hungry Hill" <hungryh@nc*.ne*>
> > > > To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 1:28 PM
> > > > Subject: Clarification cycle cell typo
> > > >
> > > > > 1) a typo is when you hit the wrong key on the keyboard, but you
know
> > the
> > > > > meaning of the word and it's spelling.
> > > > > i.e. "suckle or sicjle or sicklr cell anemia"
> > > > >
> > > > > 2) a misspelling is when you know the word and it's meaning but
can't
> > > > > remember the letters in the word.
> > > > > i.e. "syckle cell anemia"
> > > > >
> > > > > 3) a brain fart is when you know what you're talking about but you
mix
> > up
> > > > a
> > > > > word.
> > > > > i.e. "cycle cell anemia"
> > > > >
> > > > > 4) B.S. AKA "Male Answer Syndrome" is when you fabricate
supporting
> > > > > material to enhance the illusion that you know what you are
talking
> > about
> > > > > when you don't.
> > > > > i.e. "that is what happens when cells "cycle" and explains the
pain
> > that
> > > > > its victims feel, as well as the loss of capacity associated
> > therewith."
> > > > >
> > > > > We've been taught to trust you George. Do your best to deserve it.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Bruce Bowers
> > > > > film/video composer, multi-instrumentalist
> > > > > Akimbo Music Prod/Hungry Hill Records
> > > > >
> > > > >
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