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--Apple-Mail-1595598235-1 content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The lesson here is that people who live in trailers shouldn't dive as a = hobby. Perhaps refilling fire extinguishers would be a more appropriate, = and useful, diversion. Jim On Wednesday, October 4, 2000, at 08:10 AM, Trey wrote: Zambeck - see a doctor. ----- Original Message ----- From: gzambeck1 <gzambeck1@me*.ne*> To: Trey <trey@ne*.co*> Cc: Aldo P. Solari [APS] <aldo.solari@ho*.se*>; <techdiver@aquanaut.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 7:23 AM Subject: Re: helium > Then George your going to tell us all why a diver had an oxygen fire = and burned > up his trailer. > He used his haskel to pump argon and then he used it to pump oxygen. > > Greg Z. > > Trey wrote: > > > Aldo, helium is helium. Helium is used in welding by blowing it = around the > > weld so that the material being welded can not get any oxygen , so = does not > > oxidize. That is what gives that clean melted metal look to good aluminum > > welding. Argon is actually better, as it is a heavier gas and easier = to keep > > on the weld. > > > > Acetylene welding uses a mixing device which burns the gas as it is combined > > with oxygen in a torch tip ( tell those guys about "oxygen cleaning" = ). > > Welding oxygen could conceivably get acetylene pushed back into the tank, > > but then the fact is that acetylene acts like an inert gas for = diving smells > > horrible , and if it does not blow up then, well you'll be able to = tell by > > the buzz. > > > > The suppliers keep the welding, aviator, and medical bottles = separate and > > the fill them as categories, generally vacuuming the welding bottles once, > > aviators twice, medical three times. > > > > There is nothing else in the gas. Use it and have fun. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Aldo P. Solari [APS] <aldo.solari@ho*.se*> > > To: George "Trey" Irvine <trey@ne*.co*> > > Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2000 9:41 PM > > Subject: helium > > > > > Trey, can you clarify whether you use welding helium for your gas > > > mixes ? > > > > > > Here (Canary islands) we dont have "medical grade" helium but > > > there is helium for welding ... > > > > > > Do you have some specific filters to transvase welding helium to > > > your triox mixes ? > > > > > > As a matter of fact, if this welding heliums could be used for > > > diving, it would open a new window here in Canary Islands. > > > > > > cheers, > > > > > > aldo > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to = `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to = `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. --Apple-Mail-1595598235-1 content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable content-type: text/enriched; charset=us-ascii <fontfamily><param>Helvetica</param>The lesson here is that people who = live in trailers shouldn't dive as a hobby. Perhaps refilling fire = extinguishers would be a more appropriate, and useful, diversion. Jim On Wednesday, October 4, 2000, at 08:10 AM, Trey wrote: <italic>Zambeck - see a = doctor.</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>----- Original Message = -----</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>From: gzambeck1 = <<gzambeck1@me*.ne*></italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</par am> <italic></italic></color><italic>To: Trey = <<trey@ne*.co*></italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>Cc: Aldo P. Solari [APS] = <<aldo.solari@ho*.se*>; = <<techdiver@aquanaut.com></italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000< ;/param> <italic></italic></color><italic>Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 7:23 = AM</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>Subject: Re: = helium</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> Then George your going to tell us all = why a diver had an oxygen fire = and</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> = <italic></italic></color><italic>burned</italic><color><par am>0000,0000,00= 00</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> up his = trailer.</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> He used his haskel to pump argon and = then he used it to pump = oxygen.</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> = <italic></italic></color><italic>></italic><color><param>00 00,0000,0000</p= aram> <italic></italic></color><italic>> Greg = Z.</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> = <italic></italic></color><italic>></italic><color><param>00 00,0000,0000</p= aram> <italic></italic></color><italic>> Trey = wrote:</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> = <italic></italic></color><italic>></italic><color><param>00 00,0000,0000</p= aram> <italic></italic></color><italic>> > Aldo, helium is helium. Helium is = used in welding by blowing it = around</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> = <italic></italic></color><italic>the</italic><color><param> 0000,0000,0000<= /param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> > weld so that the material being = welded can not get any oxygen , so = does</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> = <italic></italic></color><italic>not</italic><color><param> 0000,0000,0000<= /param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> > oxidize. That is what gives that = clean melted metal look to = good</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> = <italic></italic></color><italic>aluminum</italic><color><p aram>0000,0000,= 0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> > welding. Argon is actually better, = as it is a heavier gas and easier = to</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> = <italic></italic></color><italic>keep</italic><color><param >0000,0000,0000= </param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> > on the = weld.</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> = ></italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> > Acetylene welding uses a mixing = device which burns the gas as it = is</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> = <italic></italic></color><italic>combined</italic><color><p aram>0000,0000,= 0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> > with oxygen in a torch tip ( tell = those guys about "oxygen cleaning" = ).</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> > Welding oxygen could conceivably = get acetylene pushed back into = the</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> = <italic></italic></color><italic>tank,</italic><color><para m>0000,0000,000= 0</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> > but then the fact is that acetylene = acts like an inert gas for = diving</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> = <italic></italic></color><italic>smells</italic><color><par am>0000,0000,00= 00</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> > horrible , and if it does not blow = up then, well you'll be able to = tell</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> = <italic></italic></color><italic>by</italic><color><param>0 000,0000,0000</= param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> > the = buzz.</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> = ></italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> > The suppliers keep the welding, = aviator, and medical bottles = separate</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> = <italic></italic></color><italic>and</italic><color><param> 0000,0000,0000<= /param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> > the fill them as categories, = generally vacuuming the welding = bottles</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> = <italic></italic></color><italic>once,</italic><color><para m>0000,0000,000= 0</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> > aviators twice, medical three = times.</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> = ></italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> > There is nothing else in the gas. = Use it and have fun.</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> = ></italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> > ----- Original Message = -----</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> > From: Aldo P. Solari [APS] = <<aldo.solari@ho*.se*></italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</p aram> <italic></italic></color><italic>> > To: George "Trey" Irvine = <<trey@ne*.co*></italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> > Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2000 = 9:41 PM</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> > Subject: = helium</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> = ></italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> > > Trey, can you clarify whether you = use welding helium for your = gas</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> > > mixes = ?</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> > = ></italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> > > Here (Canary islands) we dont = have "medical grade" helium = but</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> > > there is helium for welding = ....</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> > = ></italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> > > Do you have some specific = filters to transvase welding helium = to</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> > > your triox mixes = ?</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> > = ></italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> > > As a matter of fact, if this = welding heliums could be used = for</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> > > diving, it would open a new = window here in Canary = Islands.</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> > = ></italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> > > = cheers,</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> > = ></italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> > > = aldo</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> > = ></italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> > = ></italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> > = ></italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> = ></italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> > = --</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>> > Send mail for the `techdiver' = mailing list to = `techdiver@aquanaut.com'.</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</para m> <italic></italic></color><italic>> > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests = to = `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000& lt;/pa= ram> = <italic></italic></color><italic>></italic><color><param>00 00,0000,0000</p= aram> = <italic></italic></color><italic>--</italic><color><param>0 000,0000,0000</= param> <italic></italic></color><italic>Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing = list to = `techdiver@aquanaut.com'.</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</para m> <italic></italic></color><italic>Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to = `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000& lt;/pa= ram> --Apple-Mail-1595598235-1-- -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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