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well that assumes all 14 dives require helium, and i am now hearing that only a
couple
of the dives are this deep, so if anything i need to revise my estimate
downward, which
just makes the final dollar figure even lower.

 if you want to go hand to hand with the list on why independents are
stupidity, be my
guest. i will not be diving such a rig in the immediate future< like, ever.>.

in any event, why on earth would you need double 80's for a non penetrating
dive in near
perfect conditions? are we not diving in a buddy team? are we doing extreme
exposures in
middle of Pacific, 14 hours from a chamber? 15 to 20 min bottom times would
lead to a
runtime compatible with backgas deco w a single 80. bring a 40 of 50/50 to deco
and you
should be able to stay w/in thirds for chirstsake.

you know the more i think about this, the more reasons i see to not dive this
site with
these people, who obviously have little regard for anything besides the money
people pay
them.

perhaps if the checks had to clear customs at the airport before they got paid
they
could figure it out.

Al Marvelli


I would bring my own manifold.

conversely what type of brain disfunction does one have to have to need two 80's

Scott Stitt wrote:

> Al
> Your math looks reasonable enough except for one possible problem. Few of
these
> dives, if any, will be made on singles. Twin-independent-80's were all that
was
> available on my trip. Unless you bring your own manifolded twins, your own
manifold,
> or they've upgraded their equipment since, that's what their is.
> Andrew mentioned to me that one cylinder, of unknown size, was $600.
> regardless, in order to be more accurate you'll have to double your estimate.
> regards
> Scott
>
> ajmarve@ba*.ne* wrote:
>
> > so lets do some math. seven days, two dives a day. lets say.
> >
> > ten divers.
> >
> > lets $500 us per k of he. thats all you need if they can make ean with a
> > membrane.
> >
> > so lets say we are going to make these dives on 19/35. lets say non
penetration
> > dives because of no manifolds, so single 80's for every one. how many k's
of he
> > will we need. im thinking   35% of 80 cuft is what 26 cuft so thts 52 cuft
per
> > diver per day so roughly 520 cuft per day so you need roughly 3640 cuft of
gas.
> > so you need 14 k's of he.
> >
> > 500x14= 7000 divide by ten divers cost = 700 per diver, but over 14 dives
thats
> > only 50 dollars per dive.
> >
> > do you really expect anybody to believe you pay what four grand for the
boat,
> > another grand to fly, endure 17 hours in a plane then who knows how long on
the
> > boat, and then the educated techdiver <who probably pays twenty grand to
get to
> > that point> says i cant afford to pay $50 to dive gas, so im going to dive
air?.
> >
> > now thats bullshit Scott
> >
> > Al Marvelli
> >
> > scott sitt wrote
> >
> > > > > of
> > > > > > shipping one K-cylinder of 02 or helium to Chuuk is over $500 U.S.
> >
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