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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 06:22:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: Christopher Brown <hokiediver@ya*.co*>
Subject: Re: And the beat goes on, and on, and on...
To: ajmarve@ba*.ne*, Trey <trey@ne*.co*>
Cc: Scott Stitt <seatech@id*.co*>, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Al,

> as far as helium on truk, im still waiting for
> somebody to tell me how they join
> two pieces of metal on this island.

It's Truk!  The only metal on Truk is found on the
bottom of the lagoon!!

 
--- ajmarve@ba*.ne* wrote:
> Trey,
> 
> I think you should also point out to this guy that
> JJ was actually on a film
> shoot, where he was called in professionally and
> did'nt buy his way onto the
> wrek.
> 
> and they called him in because they wanted useable
> film of the wrek, and not
> some useless footage of sand or some deep air morons
> narced thumb on the lens..
> 
> as far as helium on truk, im still waiting for
> somebody to tell me how they join
> two pieces of metal on this island.
> 
> Al Marvelli
> 
> Trey wrote:
> 
> > Look, you asshole ,Andrew tried to do a trip there
> and the fucking boat
> > would not allow helium and cited Gilliam as the
> "authority".
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Scott Stitt <seatech@id*.co*>
> > To: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>
> > Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 10:06 PM
> > Subject: Re: And the beat goes on, and on, and
> on...
> >
> > > What are you implying is "bullshit"? I said the
> gas can be had in Chuuk
> > for a
> > > price. I'd like to no more details of how JJ got
> the gas to the Britannic
> > and
> > > Turkey. I'd imagine that a great deal of
> sponsorhip and "comp" made it
> > possible.
> > > If not, I'm sure that Truk charter operators
> would be very interested in
> > any
> > > advice JJ could offer them to make helium and
> therefore trimix commercialy
> > > viable to their customers. If it can be done I'm
> sure they will do it. In
> > the
> > > meantime the only reason that helium is not
> available in Chuuk is because
> > it is
> > > cost prohibitive to do so and not because of the
> big, bad, evil Brett
> > Gilliam
> > > and to imply anything else is "bullshit".
> > >
> > > Trey wrote:
> > >
> > > > bullshit JJ ran a trip to the Britannic and
> got it there. He ran a tip
> > to
> > > > the mountains of Turkey and got it there.
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Scott Stitt <seatech@id*.co*>
> > > > To: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>
> > > > Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 7:27 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: And the beat goes on, and on, and
> on...
> > > >
> > > > > George, I'm no fan of Brett Gilliams either
> but the absence of helium
> > in
> > > > Truk
> > > > > Lagoon is strictly a matter of logistics not
> philosophy. I didn't
> > realize
> > > > that
> > > > > there were places as isolated and primitive
> as Chuuk left in the
> > world. I
> > > > was on
> > > > > the "Truk Agressor's" tek week last spring.
> (No Brett Gilliam). The
> > cost
> > > > of
> > > > > shipping one K-cylinder of 02 or helium to
> Chuuk is over $500 U.S.
> > Nitrox
> > > > is
> > > > > available only because the Agressor produces
> it's own using a membrane
> > > > system.
> > > > > If you can afford it, you can dive trimix in
> Chuuk. If not, you have
> > to
> > > > choose
> > > > > between doing 'deep' air or not going at
> all. Most of Truk's 'tek'
> > wrecks
> > > > are in
> > > > > less than 180' of water with most point of
> interest being in the 150'
> > > > range.
> > > > > Visibility - 200' plus. Water temp. nearly
> 90F. No current. I went and
> > > > would do
> > > > > so again. I did one dive on destroyer
> shipwreck 'Oite' to 200'. In
> > > > hindsite I
> > > > > would not do so again.
> > > > > However, I can't imagine anyone in Gilliam's
> position actually
> > endorsing
> > > > deep
> > > > > air dives to 200-feet. Definately a problem
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > Scott
> > > > >
> > > > > Trey wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > John, I think this is the boat that does
> not ALLOW trimix, and told
> > some
> > > > > > friends of mine that Bret Gillaim said
> "you do not need trimix to
> > 200
> > > > feet"
> > > > > > and this fat slob is out there teaching
> diving and running a
> > "training"
> > > > > > agency. This guy IS the problem in diving
> right now - the worst
> > > > influence I
> > > > > > have ever seen in any sport ever.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: <john.r.strohm@BI*.co*>
> > > > > > To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2000 12:58 PM
> > > > > > Subject: And the beat goes on, and on, and
> on...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Check out the lower half of page 95 of
> the October 2000 issue of
> > > > Rodale's
> > > > > > > "SCUBA Diving".
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is "An RSD Dive Expedition", to
> Truk Lagoon, aboard the
> > > > "Odyssey".
> > > > > > > Special features of the trip include
> "Free training and
> > supervision in
> > > > > > > extended-range diving and decompression
> techniques (if desired)
> > from
> > > > Bret
> > > > > > > Gilliam, president of Technical Diving
> International".
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Later in the pitch they say they are
> offering double tanks with
> > > > dual-valve
> > > > > > > isolation manifolds.  I guess that's an
> improvement.  When they
> > had
> > > > Mitch
> > > > > > > Skaggs doing it, they were using
> independent doubles.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Notably absent from the ad is any
> mention whatsoever of trimix.
> > They
> > > > also
> > > > > > > don't say what deco mixes are available.
>  Previously, they have
> > used
> > > > > > 80/20.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And, if that wasn't enough, and by golly
> don't you think it ought
> > to
> > > > be,
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > page 6, in the masthead for the
> magazine, we find: "Technical
> > Diving
> > > > > > > Editor: Bret Gilliam".
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