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Trey, I think you should also point out to this guy that JJ was actually on a film shoot, where he was called in professionally and did'nt buy his way onto the wrek. and they called him in because they wanted useable film of the wrek, and not some useless footage of sand or some deep air morons narced thumb on the lens.. as far as helium on truk, im still waiting for somebody to tell me how they join two pieces of metal on this island. Al Marvelli Trey wrote: > Look, you asshole ,Andrew tried to do a trip there and the fucking boat > would not allow helium and cited Gilliam as the "authority". > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Scott Stitt <seatech@id*.co*> > To: Trey <trey@ne*.co*> > Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 10:06 PM > Subject: Re: And the beat goes on, and on, and on... > > > What are you implying is "bullshit"? I said the gas can be had in Chuuk > for a > > price. I'd like to no more details of how JJ got the gas to the Britannic > and > > Turkey. I'd imagine that a great deal of sponsorhip and "comp" made it > possible. > > If not, I'm sure that Truk charter operators would be very interested in > any > > advice JJ could offer them to make helium and therefore trimix commercialy > > viable to their customers. If it can be done I'm sure they will do it. In > the > > meantime the only reason that helium is not available in Chuuk is because > it is > > cost prohibitive to do so and not because of the big, bad, evil Brett > Gilliam > > and to imply anything else is "bullshit". > > > > Trey wrote: > > > > > bullshit JJ ran a trip to the Britannic and got it there. He ran a tip > to > > > the mountains of Turkey and got it there. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Scott Stitt <seatech@id*.co*> > > > To: Trey <trey@ne*.co*> > > > Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 7:27 PM > > > Subject: Re: And the beat goes on, and on, and on... > > > > > > > George, I'm no fan of Brett Gilliams either but the absence of helium > in > > > Truk > > > > Lagoon is strictly a matter of logistics not philosophy. I didn't > realize > > > that > > > > there were places as isolated and primitive as Chuuk left in the > world. I > > > was on > > > > the "Truk Agressor's" tek week last spring. (No Brett Gilliam). The > cost > > > of > > > > shipping one K-cylinder of 02 or helium to Chuuk is over $500 U.S. > Nitrox > > > is > > > > available only because the Agressor produces it's own using a membrane > > > system. > > > > If you can afford it, you can dive trimix in Chuuk. If not, you have > to > > > choose > > > > between doing 'deep' air or not going at all. Most of Truk's 'tek' > wrecks > > > are in > > > > less than 180' of water with most point of interest being in the 150' > > > range. > > > > Visibility - 200' plus. Water temp. nearly 90F. No current. I went and > > > would do > > > > so again. I did one dive on destroyer shipwreck 'Oite' to 200'. In > > > hindsite I > > > > would not do so again. > > > > However, I can't imagine anyone in Gilliam's position actually > endorsing > > > deep > > > > air dives to 200-feet. Definately a problem > > > > Regards > > > > Scott > > > > > > > > Trey wrote: > > > > > > > > > John, I think this is the boat that does not ALLOW trimix, and told > some > > > > > friends of mine that Bret Gillaim said "you do not need trimix to > 200 > > > feet" > > > > > and this fat slob is out there teaching diving and running a > "training" > > > > > agency. This guy IS the problem in diving right now - the worst > > > influence I > > > > > have ever seen in any sport ever. > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: <john.r.strohm@BI*.co*> > > > > > To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2000 12:58 PM > > > > > Subject: And the beat goes on, and on, and on... > > > > > > > > > > > Check out the lower half of page 95 of the October 2000 issue of > > > Rodale's > > > > > > "SCUBA Diving". > > > > > > > > > > > > This is "An RSD Dive Expedition", to Truk Lagoon, aboard the > > > "Odyssey". > > > > > > Special features of the trip include "Free training and > supervision in > > > > > > extended-range diving and decompression techniques (if desired) > from > > > Bret > > > > > > Gilliam, president of Technical Diving International". > > > > > > > > > > > > Later in the pitch they say they are offering double tanks with > > > dual-valve > > > > > > isolation manifolds. I guess that's an improvement. When they > had > > > Mitch > > > > > > Skaggs doing it, they were using independent doubles. > > > > > > > > > > > > Notably absent from the ad is any mention whatsoever of trimix. > They > > > also > > > > > > don't say what deco mixes are available. Previously, they have > used > > > > > 80/20. > > > > > > > > > > > > And, if that wasn't enough, and by golly don't you think it ought > to > > > be, > > > > > on > > > > > > page 6, in the masthead for the magazine, we find: "Technical > Diving > > > > > > Editor: Bret Gilliam". > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to > > > `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > > > > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to > > > `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to > `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > > > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to > `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > > > > > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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