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Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 08:34:36 -0400
Subject: Re: 80/20 deco
From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
To: <KRussellTX@ao*.co*>, Tech Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Thank you so much for making posts like this. You are making my point in
ways I never could.

Once again, Kurt, this time in in C minor-

"I'm siiiinging in the rain"
"Yes, siiiingin' in the rain"

   Jim

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> From: KRussellTX@ao*.co*
> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 04:38:08 EDT
> To: cobber@ci*.co*
> Subject: Re: 80/20 deco
> 
> Jim,
> 
> 
> In a message dated 8/27/00 5:54:10 PM, cobber@ci*.co* writes:
> 
> << A major precept of DIR is using the same gear configuration all the
time.
>>> 
> 
> This is about as dumb as not using dive computers for recreational dives and
> using dual tanks for a 40 ft. reef dive....Bwa ha ha ha.
> 
> << As how this precept applies to gas choices, after you do a bunch of
dives
> using 50 & 100 you get to the point that you know what your deco is going to
> be without having to cut tables. If you are constantly "optimizing" your
> mixes trying to squeeze out a minute here and a minute there, you never get
> to know your deco schedule and how your body reacts to the deco.
> And if you know what your deco schedule is, then you know generally what
> your fellow dives are going to be. So when the shit hits the fan there is no
> a goat-fuck when you are trying to solve an emergency situation. No man is
> an island. Nobody in their right mind would go on tech dives thinking that
> they don't need any support with any part of the dive. That is a fools
> errand. >>
> 
> This same concept works for EAN36 and EAN80, you know.
> 
> << You guys really need to try this. I cut tables for each dive because
this
> is
> part of my drill. But the warm and fuzzies you get by knowing that you can
> do your deco in your head is hard to quantify. >>
> 
> I'm sooo glad you feel warm and fuzzy.  Do you take your little teddy with
> you diving?
> 
> << Why 50 and 100? Outside of the bakers dozen I use them because it's
simple,
> quick and efficient to do a 50 and a 100 mix. Keeping it simple reduces the
> potential for error by a large margin. As I mentioned I dive off of boats
> and doing a 50% is bad enough on a cold, wet night on the back of a pitching
> boat, why waste time with a 80/40. >>
> 
> I'd really like you to mix me up some 80/40.  Great stuff.
> 
> << I'd also like to point out that using 36/80 on dives like your
example
> forces you to use something larger than the optimal AL40 for your final deco
> gas. All this to save 5 min.s. I just don't understand your logic. >>
> 
> The logic, you Bozo, was to prove that the Baker's Dozen is a load of
> hogwash.  And anytime someone mentions EAN80, all of you DIR lemmings join in
> with LOOK UP THE BAKERS DOZEN.  I swear, it seems like none of you have ever
> even thought about this stuff.
> 
> << I know it is hopeless to point out usable, proven techniques like
this to
> you two bozos as it conflicts with your anti-DIR agenda. But I am sure that
> there are lurkers out there who can be persuaded not to dive with the likes
> of you fellows (assuming you dive) and take the enlightened high road. >>
> 
> << There are, and will always be, one heck of a lot more divers that
say "up
> yours to petty tyrants and the DIR Team, that's DIRT to you, Jim. >>
> 
> Karl
> 


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