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From: "Einar Hagen" <einar.hagen@un*.co*>
To: "Thomas Tukker" <thomas@ha*.ne*>
Cc: "Techdiver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Advice on Halcyon bladder size?
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 03:47:22 +0200
You didnt offend me, Thomas, i was just in a generally bad mood
the day i sent this mail. I felt however, and still do, that an alu-plate
is in useless-land for us.

The "waves"-issue is probably making us both confused....I was
tlaking about the fact that we have some nasty weater over here,
every now and then. 1.5 meter waves and big winds are not a valid
reason to abort a dive, and when we are fully loaded with the lot,
we need every pound of the 65 to keep our nose above the water.

And when i ditch the Pro14, i am coming back with a fill of the
proper mix to retreive it, regardless of depth..........   :-)

Where have you picked up your language skills, Thomas?
Og hvordan gaar det naar jeg skifter til norsk?


Med venlig hilsen,
Einar Hagen



> Dear Einar,
>
> By no means did I mean to offend you or tell you what you have to do. I
only
> tried to give an impression on what my favorite setup is for these dives.
> Now I am build in such a way that I sink like a rock, so that might bring
> some confusion here.
> Buoyancy in general is very different from person to person and of course
> differs with the equipment you take down.
> Now, on the waves part you confused me a bit...I thought that was the word
> we use over here in the US and you use something like "viken" over there
to
> describe this natural phenomenon. I might be wrong, I do not remember it
> that well.
> The Pro 6 HID is fine for me in this situation, I do not care less about
> "ditchable weight" when I am wearing a dry suit and please let us know
when
> you ditch yours...<g>
> Anyway Mr. Hagen, keep the informative emails coming. You seem to be a
very
> passionate guy when it comes to writing emails on diving and when I am in
> the right mood it can be very enjoyable reading indeed.
>
> Hilse,
>
> THOMAS
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Einar Hagen [mailto:einar.hagen@un*.co*]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 7:14 PM
> > To: thomas@ha*.ne*
> > Cc: Techdiver
> > Subject: Re: Advice on Halcyon bladder size?
> >
> >
> > Eeehhh....??????????? Go on Thomas, tell us why on earth
> > we should use an ALU plate instead of the SS we are using.
> >
> > I am diving with Øystein in Norway, and sometimes we have
> > a thing called "waves" over here.....with steel doubles, dual
> > stages and a cannister light, enough lead screwed into the
> > plate, lots of underwear and a drysuit, i fail to see what an
> > ALU plate would do for us..........And your choice in light
> > seems odd too. I want the 14 so i can use it as ditchable weight.
> > The 6 is probably a nice light in tropical conditions, but up here
> > a 14 seems like a better deal.
> >
> >
> > Einar
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Thomas Tukker <tukker@be*.ne*>
> > To: <oymehus@on*.no*>; Olle Welander <Olle.Welander@hi*.se*>
> > Cc: <TechDiver@aquanaut.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 12:44 PM
> > Subject: RE: Advice on Halcyon bladder size?
> >
> >
> > > ALU back plate is the ticket in this situation, combined with a 55
pound
> > > bladder and a pro6HID instead of a Pro14 halogen...<g>.
> > >
> > > Regards,.
> > >
> > > THOMAS
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Øystein Mehus [mailto:omehus@hi*.no*]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 1:53 AM
> > > > To: Olle Welander
> > > > Cc: 'TechDiver@aquanaut.com'
> > > > Subject: Re: Advice on Halcyon bladder size?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Olle Welander wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > In sweden we have steel doubles in 2*10, 2*12, 2*15, 2*18
> > litres. I am
> > > > > thinking of 2*12 or 2*15. What i want to know is what is the
> > > > maximum set of
> > > > > doubles and stages you could take on a 45, 55 and 65 lb halcyon
> > > > bladder??
> > > > > What's the maximum doubles set for a bladder if you don't wear
> > > > any stages at
> > > > > all?
> > > > > I have a Halcyon SS backplate and still a Poseidon neopren
> > > > drysuit, which I
> > > > > can't afford to replace right now.
> > > > >
> > > > Hi Olle, I'm in Norway myself, try to DIR and dive 2x12.5
> > > > 232bar. If you can get the 232bar tanks in Sweden, go for a
> > > > pair of those as they have much better buoyancy
> > > > characteristics than the 200bar.
> > > >
> > > > I don't know what kind of diving you do, but 2x12(.5) should
> > > > get you a long way. I have recently used those and two 7l
> > > > stages on a 100m dive/10min without violating the rule of
> > > > thirds. I use this set for everything from shallow nitrox
> > > > dives, to deep trimix. If I need more gas, I add a stage.
> > > >
> > > > Personally I find the 65lb Halcyon to be fine. Diving in open
> > > > water, high waves with stages, canister light etc, I like to
> > > > be floated a little higher in the water than what the 55lb
> > > > will do. A friend of mine dives 2x12 and a 45lb Halcyon, he
> > > > claims it's pretty inflated at bottom (85m), even with
> > > > alu-stages, but still it's no big deal.
> > > >
> > > > To recap, a 65, I think, would be preferred by most peaople
> > > > diving in rough seas, 55 should also be OK by most people and
> > > > even the 45 should be OK in calm seas, or cave.
> > > > --
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