-----Original Message-----
From:	Tim Ross [SMTP:diverse@un*.on*.ca*]
Sent:	Monday, August 14, 2000 10:12 PM
To:	Chris Ward
Subject:	Re: Ron Fuller's death in San Diego


Hopefully people will learn from the mistakes? Mistakes here quite often
mean a fatality. As far as I am aware, GUE has as yet, lost no one and DIR
is built on a system that prevents this kind of tragidy, not on lost 
divers!


You're right...it would be much better it no one learned from these 
incidents.


> DIR didn't magically create its configuration overnight and it worked
> perfectly.  It took time and experimentation.  The fact that no one died
> during the process is pure luck.  When any experimentation with theory 
and
> the unknown is undertaken, a certain amount of risk is accepted.  I
applaud
> those who accept this and continue forward, but I don't think anyone can
> say there isn't a little luck in the process and a few crossed fingers
> before trying something new.
>
> Chris Ward

It never cesses to amaze me, how some of you think there is glory in
accepting unacceptable risk. There is no glory in this type of death, it's
not a battle field and we are not fighting a war. Get your head out of your
ass!

What kind of instructor would I be, if I taught my next trimix course, 
based
on an element of luck. Proper information, planning and DIR is what is
required along with candidate screening. I sure hope you are not an
instructor!!

I don't recall saying there was any glory in it.  If you read the statement 
a little more carefully it says "I applaud those who accept this and 
continue forward....", as in accepting the risks involved in technical 
diving and experimenting with new concepts.  Since no one else seems to 
have lambasted me yet like you have, for reading something into a statement 
that doesn't exist, I'd say I'm not the one with my head up my ass.

I'd say you were a shitty instructor if you did that.  Instructional 
certification courses should never be taught with incomplete data and hard 
information to back it up.  As before, I never said anything like what 
you've insinuated.

Are you one of those people who reads the first and last sentence of a post 
and knows what was written in between automatically......because your 
accuracy is amazing.

Chris Ward
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