Bill,

You seem to be insinuating that DIR and GUE didn't go through this same 
process to come up with its current configurations.  Which would of course 
be a load of crap.  The losses are indeed high and heartfelt and hopefully 
people will learn from the mistakes.

DIR didn't magically create its configuration overnight and it worked 
perfectly.  It took time and experimentation.  The fact that no one died 
during the process is pure luck.  When any experimentation with theory and 
the unknown is undertaken, a certain amount of risk is accepted.  I applaud 
those who accept this and continue forward, but I don't think anyone can 
say there isn't a little luck in the process and a few crossed fingers 
before trying something new.

Chris Ward


-----Original Message-----
From:	Bill Wolk [SMTP:BillWolk@ea*.ne*]
Sent:	Friday, August 11, 2000 5:39 PM
To:	MHK; aquanaut
Subject:	Re: Ron Fuller's death in San Diego

Mike's message on Ron Fuller, and especially the message from Ron's wife
about his death, has
put this list in clear perspective, for me at least. Without belaboring
the point that many of us have been trying to make about doing it right,
I want all the doubters out there to consider the cost in human life
we've seen this week:

1.  Ron Fuller -- dead on a homemade rebreather -- leaves a wife and
family.

2.  Tony Maffatone -- dead on a homemade open circuit rig -- leaves a
wife and 2 children.

3.  David Cooper -- dead diving deep air (at only 160') also leaves a
wife and 2 children.

I can't make the case for DIR training and gear configuration -- or
something reasonably close to it -- any clearer than this.  When are all
you personal preference types going to realize that the cost of doing it
wrong is just too high?

My condolences and best wishes go out to all the families involved.

Bill Wolk


On8/11/00 2:51 PM, MHK wrote:

>Ron Fuller's body was found yesterday in 60' after a solo dive using a
>homemade rebreather.
>
>Attached is a link to pic's of the unit.
>
>). http://www.diegoweb.com/diving/frog1.html
>
>
>Also, copied below is a message from Ron's wife.  Ron was considered an
>experienced guy but made a mistake that cost him his life and left his
>family in shambles.  The silence from the personal preference crowd is
>deafening with respect to these issues.  Please remember Ron's wife's
>words next time we have a go around in the personal preference stuff.
>
>
>At 08:49 AM 8/11/2000 -0700, Ron Fuller wrote:
>>My husband, Ron, died in a scuba accident Wednesday. He went out for a
>>short dive at 11 am. By 4:30 when he hadn't returned, I knew the worst
>>had happened but I also knew the lifeguards would think nothing of it 
with
>>so little elapsed time. I called at 6 and got the expected response that
>>he was probably out with friends or drinking a bar. I persisted and they
>>started a search that night. They found his body Thursday in 60 ft. of
>>water. The autopsy will begin today.
>>
>> I'm not doing very well as you'd expect. Please pray for me and my kids
>>(if there is a God) At this point, I have many doubts. All my life, my
>>mother would say "God won't send you any more burdens than
>>you can handle." Obviously that's not true.
>>
>>Also, would someone please tell me the correct sign-off procedure for 
this
>>list.
>>
>>Mary Ann Fuller
>>mfuller@sa*.rr*.co*
>
>
>
>
>
>


Best regards --

Bill

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