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From: "Kent Lind" <klind@al*.ne*>
To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: RE: re vb tech report
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 08:32:22 -0800
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JT:

You are citing a cave diving site and I'm quite certain this discussion is
about carrying stages of BOTTOM GAS to extend penetration, not deco.  AL80s
are always the correct bottle for bottom gas stages whether in caves or in
ocean.  Don't confuse deco bottles with stages.  Obviously if you only have 20
minutes of deco then an AL80 is unnecessary and I'm sure George would be the
first to agree.

And, by the way, AL80 stages of bottom gas work perfectly on wreck dives.  On
my small boat I don't have space to carry a complete helium fill station for
overnight trips to the more remote wrecks that we dive.  And I don't own 3
sets of doubles.  So we have taken to following George's advice of diving
trimix stages (AL80s) and preserving the bottom gas in the doubles until the
last dive of the trip.  Works great and ends up being a FAR FAR more efficient
use of helium which is important when it costs $250 per cylinder like it does
up here in SE Alaska.  The amount of trimix that I end up having to dump is
down to almost nothing.

Kent Lind
Juneau, Alaska
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Capt JT [mailto:captjt@mi*.co*]
  Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 12:13 PM
  To: Phi Le
  Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
  Subject: RE: re vb tech report


  Below in BOLD is the section about stages written by George Irvine and is
still on the WKPP org. web site in the equipment section. Since most NE
wreckers have turned their back on techdiver due to GI tactics, the only
source of information they can get without being pounded "WKPP wanna bees" is
this site or others who are doing nothing more than sniffing GI butt with this
same copied info.

  Stages should be aluminum 80's.
  Right off the bat they can see that GI is off his rocker, he has already
told everyone not to change any of his system, they already know that it is
much easier to carry a 45 steel stage than an eighty on a wreck dive. Alum
40's are better for wreck dives, easier to manage, but he does not say that in
this on the site

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