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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 22:11:52 -0400
Subject: Re: SP Mark 5
From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
To: <ScottBonis@ao*.co*>, <stuart.morrison@sw*.co*.uk*>,
     ,
I was thinking of christolube, could not recall the name at the time. My
point was that the standard orings, seats, etc. work fine with 02 and you
don't need a kit or a green color for your reg to work. 02 may accelerate
decomposition of standard orings but what the hell you replace them annually
anyway, you don't give them enough time to degrade.

There is so much BS out there about 02 and it really irks me that the
marketers have taken advantage of the situation to sell bogus "02 kits" and
green "nitrox" regulators. You need to clean your tanks, manifolds and regs
to give you a clean air supply, never mind the 02. Any properly cleaned rig
will be clean enough for 02.

   Jim
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> From: <ScottBonis@ao*.co*>
> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 12:35:11 EDT
> To: stuart.morrison@sw*.co*.uk*, cobber@ci*.co*,
> RLucas1013@ao*.co*, TechDiver@aquanaut.com
> Subject: Re: SP Mark 5
> 
> Hi Stuart (or Scott, I'm not sure which),
> 
> Thanks for your comments.
> 
> Of course I'm aware of brand names being used for generic items i.e. IBM
> cards, Aspirin, Kleenex, and Xerox copies.  But in this specific case, I
> believe it is not wise to refer to O2 compatible lube (such as Crist-O-Lube)
> as "Silicone" or your term "sil grease."  I can easily imagine some
> inexperienced diver, after hearing about using "silicone" with oxygen
> systems, going out and using some G.E. Silicone grease on a deco reg for 100%
> oxygen.  And I hope you agree that this really is dangerous.
> 
> Take care and safe diving,       Scott
> 
> 
> In a message dated 8/11/00 7:13:28 AM, stuart.morrison@sw*.co*.uk*
> writes:
> << Hi Jim,
> 
> 
> like you I do not own one single reg which has had an O2 kit. Five years
> 
> of O2 and they still work the same. I'm still using an original first run
> 
> Apeks T40 (before they added the 'X' as a marketing gimmick to make it
> 
> the TX40) with O2 with all original parts. It has been cleaned and
> 
> regreased many times and there has been no noticeable degradation of any
> 
> part except the mouthpiece which I bit through when some fool knocked me
> 
> off a deco stop. I don't know if it makes a difference but I flush it
> 
> through with some air after every dive. O2 kits and, more so, branded
> 
> nitrox regs strike me as a con.
> 
> 
>> I believe you'll find that any O2 compatible lube is not a
> 
>> silicone and
> 
>> surely not silicon.
> 
> 
> It's like not all vacuum cleaners are made by Hoover, but over here a
> 
> vacuum cleaner is still called a hoover regardless. That slimey stuff you
> 
> lube regs with is always called sil grease regardless of what's in it,
> 
> it's just a general term, not a specific. Bloody hell, jetfins have
> 
> neither jets nor fins on them and no-one complains :)
> 
> 
> S
> 
> 
> In a message dated 8/11/00 4:47:28 AM, ScottBonis@ao*.co* writes:
> Hi Jim,
> I believe you'll find that any O2 compatible lube is not a silicone and
> surely not silicon.
> Take care and safe diving,       Scott
> 
> 
> In a message dated 8/10/00 3:25:32 AM, cobber@ci*.co* writes:
> << O2 clean means you clean the reg and use O2 silicon lube. Other than
that
> nothing else is needed. "02 Kit" is nothing but a scam. I have been using no
> special prep regs on 100% 02 for the last 5 years, as have many of my dive
> buddies. No explosions or even failures.
> 
> Sounds like shop #4 would be the one to deal with.
> 
> Jim
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>> From: <RLucas1013@ao*.co*>
>> Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 15:44:58 EDT
>> To: TechDiver@aquanaut.com
>> Subject: SP Mark 5
>> 
>> Any Scuba Pro people with personnel experience on 02 cleaning of a Mark 5?
>> 
>> I called SP in CA regarding this and there response was they don't make a 02
>> conversion kit for a M5. I asked if the existing 0 rings are 02 compatible,
>> the technicians  reply was yes, but the problem is with the high pressure
>> seat which is made of poly something and has never been tested for 02, to
>> confirm this I spoke to three different dive shops in the area for there
>> opinion. 
>> 1st SP shop, I can't do it.
>> 2nd SP shop not a problem, I have some special shit and can the fill 1st
>> stage with it for $20.
>> 3rd SP shop, I have a different brand 02 kit that will fit yours, bring it
> in.
>> 4th dive shop, I can change all the 0 rings and it will be 02 cleaned.
>> 
>> Any PVC Engineers out there? >>
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