George, I would love to see the look on these guys faces as we plop our
104's and stages on their pristine teak decks... Also how do you get back up
on them without a decent boarding ladder? And around here a stern platform
is rare on SF's.

Pina, Admiral Lord Nelson, a naval strategic genius of the wooden ships and
iron men period, would get deathly sea sick. He would even get nauseous
riding in a carriage. Regardless of this, and having previously lost an arm
and an eye in battle, the good Admiral kicked French Butt against
overwhelming odds cumulating at the Battle of Trafalgar in 1805.

So you are in good company!

   Jim
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> From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
> Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 06:07:16 -0400
> To: "pina" <pina3@be*.ne*>, "Jim Cobb" <cobber@ci*.co*>, "Capt
> JT" <captjt@mi*.co*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Subject: Re: vb tech diver report
> 
> Jim, the only thing I would do differently up there
> is use  a faster boat. That 65 foot Hatteras docked
> next to you will run 32 knots all day long in any
> sea - that is who I would charter to dive out there.
> Even that Buddy Davis sitting there will run 30
> knots. Those guys are expert seamen and have the
> finest equipment on those boats, and they are
> maintained perfectly. Lots of these owners let the
> crews charter the boats to make extra money, keep
> them sharp and keep the boat running perfectly and
> for other tax angles .
> 
> I chartered a 60 foot Garlington with twin 16
> cylinder Mercedes engines it it that ran 35 knots
> and he only charged me 1400 per day including fuel.
> Split that among four or six divers and you can dive
> in safety and comfort with first class equipment and
> fast run times. Notice that those two boats next to
> us ( I went and talked to them ) were fishing the
> 100 fathom curve 85 miles off shore while we were
> only 60, and they had a total of 5 hours roundtrip
> to our 12 hours.
> 
> On the Garlington, I was drift diving at 300 feet in
> the middle of nowhere and those guys never got off
> of me for one second. They can find anything and
> they stay focused. They never fuck up, and when the
> diving is over, you go inside in the a/c and watch
> tv without spilling your cofee running wide open in
> any sea.
> 
> 
> From: pina <pina3@be*.ne*>
> To: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>; Capt JT
> <captjt@mi*.co*>; Trey <trey@ne*.co*>;
> techdiver@aquanaut.com <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Date: Saturday, August 12, 2000 3:11 AM
> Subject: RE: vb tech diver report
> 
> 
>> 
>> Sea sickness is just something I can't really
> shake, but I still want to
>> dive so it doesn't matter, and I am pretty used to
> the whole episode by now.
>> And actually, it is easiest when people (except T,
> of course) mostly just
>> leave me alone and not try to help, because they
> can't really anyway, and a
>> few comments here and there to lighten the mood may
> not amuse me at the time
>> to the point of laughter, but at least they
> distract my attention :-)
>> 
>> But, if anyone had broken out a cigar or a can of
> dog food, you can bet it
>> wouldn't have been the edge of the boat I was
> puking over with my doubles
>> on.  For that matter, if I was getting screwed with
> I likely would have just
>> eaten more and aimed at the offender for my
> revenge.
>> 
>> The whole way out there I was saying "I'll never do
> this shit again", but in
>> retrospect I definitely would.  I will just
> experiment with new options next
>> time (maybe the band instead of the Bonine, and I
> keep forgetting to eat
>> some Ginger).
>> 
>> That was not the sickest I have ever been, and not
> the last time I will be
>> sick, and I don't care either.  I knew I would get
> sick, so fucking what?
>> and?  at least I was neat about it (I have had lots
> of practice, hehe :-)
>> 
>> Also, we didn't get in the water sooner because I
> was not moving very fast
>> topside.  I don't mind puking off the boat, but I
> really dislike puking in
>> my regulator and had no interest in floating
> amongst my breakfast.
>> 
>> peace.
>> --pina
>> 
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Jim Cobb [mailto:cobber@ci*.co*]
>>> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 9:46 PM
>>> To: Tech Diver
>>> Subject: Re: vb tech diver report
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hey, George, vis was 40' with your light is
> turned *on*, pointless around
>>> here to call it with the light off. I also have
> to apologize for
>>> whoever is
>>> was that ran the wreck reel, if I knew who that
> was I would have
>>> given them
>>> a ration of shit. Running a reel that day was
> ridiculous. And the water is
>>> not filthy, that shit in the water's called
> plankton. We love it, it's a
>>> great snack while you are decoing.
>>> 
>>> Enjoyed diving with you guys, BTW we give
> *anybody* who has
>>> achieved a nice
>>> pastel pale green color a hard time, ask Neal.
> Actually we were
>>> being quite
>>> nice, nobody broke out a cigar or a can of dog
> food.
>>> 
>>> Jim
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>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> JT, we dove when it was our turn. We dive as
> teams
>>>>> as a matter of practice, unlike the New
> England tough
>>>>> guys. Pina and I swam together , JJ followed
> us with
>>>>> Kane's scooter. Pina found a skull, which we
> left
>>>>> alone - we do not strip the wreck , we leave
> stuff for
>>>>> others to see.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I use a compass ( I am fairly sure the NE
> wreck
>>>>> divers could be taught to use these with a few
> years
>>>>> of schooling ), and it has N,S,E, and even
> West on it,
>>>>> and a little needle which tends to point to
> the North,
>>>>> and having not only been on boats for my
> entire life
>>>>> my father was one of the guys who started
> Hatteras
>>>>> Yacht Company which I used to deliver boats
> for as a
>>>>> teenager up and down the east coast ), and
> having
>>>>> worked in boat factories building  boats, run
> and
>>>>> raced all kind of boats all over, been in the
> Navy
>>>>> during the Viet Nam War, and living boats as
> my family
>>>>> still owns yards all over this country,I have
>>>>> discovered that boats and ships have a Bow , a
> Stern,
>>>>> a Port side and a Starboard side, and that
> includes
>>>>> the skeleton of ships sunk during WWII like
> the
>>>>> Mexicana that you took us on.
>>>>> 
>>>>> When I can't find an anchor line, can't find
> my
>>>>> entry point, can't get back to the surface to
> find the
>>>>> dive boat, can't find my way around a boat or
> a ship,
>>>>> I'll suck your dick. The problem is that water
> up
>>>>> there is filthy, and what you guys call 40
> feet of vis
>>>>> is more like 12 feet, so the inability to
> navigate is
>>>>> a gig problem for the NE crowd. I am used to
> no clue
>>>>> navigation in caves and have yet to get lost.
> Ships
>>>>> are easy, but nothing is easy if you do it the
> NE way.
>>>>> That still is not a problem, as the bow stern
> etc.
>>>>> don't change unless one is diving air.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I can not believe that the NE crowd, like
>>>>> Christina, not only do not get the bottle
> marking
>>>>> thing, they do not use compasses, none of them
> know
>>>>> what the word "buddy" means, and the NE crowd
> comes
>>>>> rigged for a clusterfuck , which is what they
> are used
>>>>> to dealing with in NE.
>>>>> 
>>>>> JJ, Pina and I dive together for a reason - it
>>>>> is called Rule Number One.  I'll will admit
> that when
>>>>> I am 60 miles off shore , I will do it my way
> or not
>>>>> at all, and at 48 I have come back from
> everything and
>>>>> things that you do not want to know about in
> your
>>>>> worst nightmares. When I start listening to NE
> wreck
>>>>> divers, other than for amusement like a Jerky
> Boys
>>>>> tape, hand me the gun with all six chambers
> full - a
>>>>> better bet.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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> later you have
>>> to get in the
>>>> water"
>>>> Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East
> Coast & more
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>>>> Email     captjt@mi*.co*
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
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