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From: "Scott" <scottk@hc*.co*>
To: "Tech list" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>, <Gilldiver@ao*.co*>
Subject: Re: ScubaPro Faber Tanks-Paint Bubbles and Rust
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 06:42:47 -0700
Thanks for straightening that out.

I have seen several sets of tanks over the years that were powder coated,
and they *appeared* to be very durable. I was unaware of the migration
issue. I was aware of the heat issue.

I have used epoxy paint on AL tanks with good results, however.

What is the problem with the UV and epoxy? Its OK to use it as a primer, but
not as a top coat?

Thanks!

Scott



----- Original Message -----
From: <Gilldiver@ao*.co*>
To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: ScubaPro Faber Tanks-Paint Bubbles and Rust


> After reading some of the posts on tank corrosion I thought it was time
for
> a little science on coating and corrosion.
>
> This is probably more then you ever wanted to know about paints.
>
> First, Powder Coating: Powder coating is the process of applying a powder
> paint like material to an electrically conductive surface. The powder is
> then heated so that it can melt and polymerize into a uniform coating that
> can be very corrosion resistant because of barrier protection of the
> underlying metal. That means that water cannot get to the metal. However,
> if a scratch breaks through the coating and there is no sacrificial
element
> under it (like zinc galvanizing) corrosion will start immediately and can
> travel under the coating.
>
> For tanks there are two problems with powder coating, the first is the
> requirement for electric conductivity. Powder coats are applied by a
static
> electric charge and many primers are not conductive. Therefor, primers are
> generally not used. This results in the application of powder directly
onto
> the tank surface without any primer. On bare steal this is not a problem
but
> on zinc you will have a hard time getting really good adhesion due to the
> oxide layer that forms on the galvanized surface almost instantaneously
when
> it is exposed to air. If there is any remaining paint for the old coat you
> will have spotting of the new coating.
>
> The second problem is from heating to melt the powder and cure it. On
steel
> tanks there is no problem on aluminum their is a BIG problem. Aluminum
> alloys are just that ALLOYS. They contain other metals like iron, copper,
> zinc, magnesium, and manganese. Whenever these alloys are exposed above
275F
> you will start to get eutectic melting. This is melting of these alloying
> metals within the crystal structure of the aluminum. Metals like copper
and
> zinc will move along the crystal structure and pool on a microscopic
level.
> In stressed parts like tanks this pooling forms weak spots were cracks can
> start easily. Above 250F you will also start to change the crystal
structure
> of the aluminum which in itself can form stresses and cracking. As powder
> coating typically is done above 300F, powder coating should never be done
on
> an aluminum tank. If an aluminum tank is exposed to temperatures above
250F
> it should be scrapped.
>
> So powder coating will work somewhat on steel tanks but never on aluminum.
> So what can you do?
>
> Try looking around the local airport for a small scale aircraft paint
> facility that will do small jobs. Have them completely strip the tanks
with
> a chemical stripper or Plastic Media Blast (PMB) system. Never use sand
> blasting on aluminum or galvanized tanks. Have them apply an aircraft
grade
> chromated primer and then either you or them apply a high quality aircraft
> urethane topcoat. Never use an epoxy topcoat as it will react with the
suns
> UV rays and start breaking down. The chromated chemicals in the primer
will
> act as a sacrificial element protecting the underlying metal and if a
scratch
> breaks through it will protect the bare metal in the scratch for a long
time.
> These primers will protect aluminum and steel in salt spray chambers for
at
> least 2000 hours. That would be about 5 years on a boat.
>
> The primers to look for are compliant with US Federal specification
> TT-P-1757 (Zinc Chromate) or Mil-P-23377 solvent base epoxy or Mil-P-85582
> water base epoxy. Both of the Mil primers contain either Strontium
Chromate
> or Barium Chromate. For top coat I recommend a material meeting
Mil-P-85285.
> This system of chromated primer and high quality urethane top coat will
give
> very good protection and is quite resistant to impact damage (think about
a
> jet fighter at mach 2 in a rain storm).
>
>
> So get a good clean surface, prime it, and topcoat it.
>
> Pete Johnson
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