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From: "Paul Wright" <paul@ca*.co*.uk*>
To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Diving the San Diego
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 00:42:15 +0100

The point that everyone has to keep in mind is that we do not know what
killed him. Whilst the listmembers here are of the opinion that his "state
of the art" kit is the cause of this very sad and unfortunate incident in
reality it could be one of several unconnected physiological conditions such
as a heart attack, cerebral haemorrhage etc.

Victims of various seizures are not going to behave in a logical
"Techdiver/DIR/DIW" approved sort of way, sadly they are going to fight to
get to the surface with or without kit should they remain distressed but
conscious.

Whilst it is always interesting to speculate regarding engineering failure,
the fact remains that a man has died doing what he, and we, all love.

We can speculate all we like, we can insult kit configurations, deny that
anyone who died was of our creed because those who follow our path cannot
die and are therefore disowned at the point of death. What does not change
is that until the inquest is carried out, we are merely speculating in the
same way that there are a thousand rumours and opinions about rebreathers
and little hard fact proven in open court.

I just hope that one day we will all learn enough from the experiences of
others and ourselves that this type of thing become a memory from "the bad
old days"
----- Original Message -----
From: Mcinnis, Don <Don.Mcinnis@in*.co*>
To: 'Christian Gerzner' <christiang@pi*.co*.au*>; 'David Applin'
<David.Applin@ta*.co*>
Cc: <Jsuw@ao*.co*>; <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 2:27 PM
Subject: RE: Diving the San Diego


> This post was about ATTITUDE and GEAR CHOICE only. I didn't know Tony and
I
> am sorry that he died at all, let alone while diving. The point is that he
> had just been shown on ABC television as being the STATE OF THE ART tech
> diver and a week later this "high tech" rig kills him. If nobody calls
> bullshit on gear rigs and atitudes like his, then there will continue to
be
> people dying from doing shit like this. I would consider it to be a favor
to
> all the families of other "Tony Wannabes" out there to point it out before
> it kills a loved one of theirs as well. I stand behind what I posted 110%.
>
> Don
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christian Gerzner [mailto:christiang@pi*.co*.au*]
> Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 5:59 AM
> To: Mcinnis, Don
> Cc: 'Jsuw@ao*.co*'; techdiver@aquanaut.com
> Subject: Re: Diving the San Diego
>
>
> "Mcinnis, Don" wrote:
> (snips)
>
> > Well at least his equipment will make a nice artificial reef down there
> with
> > the San Diego. The size is comparable at least. Wasn't it just last week
> > that there were comments that this rig was a suicide waiting to happen?
> > Hopefully ABC won't run this part as well, since they will make it look
> like
> > "even the most equipped tech diver can get killed". This is after he
> bashed
> > DIR and Hogarthian saying they were too narrow minded and inhibited
> > progress. Now his depth is limited to six feet under while the DIR guys
> are
> > going much deeper. So much for "personal preference" gear.
>
> You're WAY, WAY, WAY OVER THE TOP out of line.
>
> A diver has died whilst diving!!!
>
> Regardless of personal preference, it could be any of us.
>
> Shame on you,
>
> Christian
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