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This is a very good message. In reality, it does not get any easier than, a correctly routed rig, and correctly configured stages. I have blue tubs full of gear I don't want to use any more, and I don't have the conscience to sell those things to anyone. I have worked through the whole thing, half way round the world from you guys. It saddens me to hear of yet another death. We had a fatality in Sydney some years age, where another diver had a gas switching apparatus. I feel saddened that this tragedy has happened. As Billy said, it seemed like a negative bouyancy problem as well. I hope we can learn something from this tragic event. My heart goes out to his family. Jeff the Darwinian. Jarred, There was nothing new to be found in Tony's rig. It was a combination of some of the worst OLD ideas out there. That is what the prior thread was all about!!! tell you what I have this great new design for a regulator. It has not been tested yet, hell it has not even been hooked up to a tank. It was designed on a computer and FULLY tested via software simulation so it SHOULD work. I'll pay for the charter so you can test dive it to 130'. Want to try out a "new idea"? want to help make the "discovery" that it doesn't work?? It's all part of the "adventure" isn't it??? I forgot to tell you it is a NEW type of upstream regulator that does not have an overpressure relief and uses 12,000 psi rated hoses so if the fist stage does malfunction you wont loose all of you gas. Listen to your self this is EXACTLY the crap I'm talking about. Tony's rig was poorly thought out and ill conceived from the beginning. Of what use was it?? I know of only a few wrecks with big enough cargo holds to allow penetration. I doubt if ANY of the valves could be reached and the whole fucking thing was a snag hazard!!! A gas switching device that "was not like anything else" because Tony was the only one smart enough to make it work??? There were a dozen or so that found fault with the rig and correctly predicted tragedy and a similar number of people who defended this monstrosity. Who was right? How many more deaths is it going to take before you see the light? There are certain people on this list that are BANG ON time after time and others who don't seem to be able to get it right when you give them the answer. Who are you going to listen to? Which group are you going to learn from. If you think you can fix what went wrong with Tony's rig just remember that Tony was fixing what was wrong with someone else's rig and they were fixing someone else's rig and........ At one time I had three different gear configurations for the different types of diving I was doing. Over coffee one night my instructor explained this "new" gear rig to me. We went back to the shop and started to remove all the shit from my rig. Before I knew what had happened I had $60.00 worth of hardware in a paper bag and ALL of my need gear was tucked away so cleanly I was shocked!! All of this happened before I had any idea what a "Hogarth" was or who George was. I did one "test dive" with the rig in 10' - 20' (if the shit hit the fan I could bail from the gear get to the surface with out any problems). Every piece of gear was were it needed to be. The first time in the rig I KNEW where everything was without thinking about it. My next dive and every dive since has been in a Hogarthian rig ( Mike, What the fuck is a Hogarth?) and I now know who Bill Hogarth Main is. If you want to improve your gear configuration there is the answer. If you want to follow Tony's path go for it but understand there are more than a few dead bodies along that path. Where you fall is a measure or you intelligence, ingenuity, constitution, and how much luck you have left! If you are lacking in one or more of those areas we will be reading about you real soon. Now it's time for you to chouse. Consider your options CARFULLY! At 09:15 PM 8/3/00 , Jerred Cook wrote: <excerpt><fontfamily><param>arial</param><smaller>Please excuse my ignorance... </smaller></fontfamily> <fontfamily><param>arial</param><smaller>Is it really bad for someone like Tony Maffatone to work with new ideas and try them out? Granted, he may have made a terrible mistake but isn't that how big discoveries are made? I kinda thought that was part of the adventure to all of this. Did the first rebreather work perfectly the first time? I am not condoning stupidity and since I don't know exactly what Tony was doing it may very well have been stupid. I am just suggesting that maybe he has some good ideas and if this is what he enjoyed doing then good for him. I am sorry for him but at least he got to die doing something he very much enjoyed. How many of us get to say that? </smaller></fontfamily> <fontfamily><param>arial</param><smaller>Peace, </smaller></fontfamily>Jerred </excerpt> Bill (aquadart) Bott -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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