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So explain this to me Bill. George runs his head into a stalactite and knew to wear a helmet. JJ runs his manifold into and it breaks. Can't they figure out to put a cage over their regulators to protect them also? Greg Zambeck Bill Bott wrote: > Jim, > > The problem is that the "hard-headed, dumbass divers" out there think that > this is exactly what you want. They don't understand that this is exactly > what we are ALL trying to stop. I have been here before, more than once, > and shit like this makes me wonder if I should laugh or cry. I still don't > know so I sit here numb for a while before I can start screaming again. It > does make you wonder though if Tony ever heard any of what was posted here > and chouse to ignore it or if he never got the message. > > It's time for the rest of you to wake up. I no longer care who I offend > any more. If we don't get this shit stopped soon my c-cards, my > experience, and all the yelling in the world won't matter. They are going > to pull the plug on the whole fucking sport. I have kept my mouth shut for > the last year because I wanted to do nothing to jeopardizes my Instructors > cards. I no longer give a shit about that because I can see it all coming > to an end with a couple more of these high profile deaths. > > I predicted Roost's death to the dive trip. No one listened. I predicted > Brad's death and attended his funeral that fall, a diving related > death. No one listened. Half a dozen people predicted Tony's death with > this bull shit rig and a dozen morons step in to defend him. Personal > Preference is dying all around you, LITERALLY, and all we hear is it must > have been this or that. > > IT IS THE BULLSHIT, CONVOLUTED, FUCKED UP GEAR AND INADEQUATE FUCKING > TRAINING THAT IS KILLING PEOPLE AND THE AGENCIES THAT TURN THEIR FUCKING > BACKS!!!!!!!! And because I CHOUSE to point that out I run the risk no > longer being able to train divers who WILL live. WAKE THE FUCK UP > PEOPLE!!! Either get with the damn program or get the fuck out of the water. > > To the instructors out there, > > Just because a student pays you does not mean you HAVE TO certify them. I > fact just because the damn phone rings you are NOT under any obligation to > train them. CHOUSE YOUR STUDENTS CAREFULLY!!! You will be rewarded with > students who live!!! Word gets around that you only take the BEST students > and before you know it you have more of the best students than you can handle. > > To the Charter Operators, > > Just like the Instructors you are under NO OBLIGATION to take money from > someone. When you see someone with convoluted bull shit gear, TURN THEM > AWAY. When someone shows up with air to do a 200' dive, TURN THEM > AWAY. When someone shows up who looks like a heart attack waiting to > happen, TURN THEM AWAY. > > This has remained a self regulating industry because the industry has > regulated it self. That no longer seems to be the case. I don't remember > the last time ANYONE asked me for a fucking c-card before I got on a boat > or got an air fill. For that matter one of my instructors, who did not > even know me at the time, never asked me for a c-card before or after he > agreed to take me into a class. I know instructors who have given out > cards with a lecture over dinner, did inadequate confined water and never > even saw his students in open water. I know of instructors who have no > idea HOW to teach a class but some how they are now instructors.. Any of > us can get on a boat or show up at any popular dive site and see certified > divers who haven't even begun to grasp the basics of proper kicking, > buoyancy control or skills far more important like mask clearing and reg > recoveries. Who the fuck is regulating this crap??? Students from basic > open water, to cave, wreck and trimix are being pushed through without > proper training and with piss poor skills. It is no wonder people are > dying. If someone had properly trained Tony so many years and $100,000 ago > would he have run out of gas on the dive that started his spending > spree??? Would he have ever started down the path that lead to his > unfortunate death??? The problem did not start with the $100,000 > rig. That is where the story ends. God I feel sorry for his family. > > If this shit does not stop soon we will all be filling tanks from the > Craftsman compressor in the garage to do 20 minute dives in the fucking > bathtub because the industry will be regulated out of existence. > > I swear to god my OW instructor found a dozen or more ways to help me to > loose my mask before I was certified OW. Someone was asking about the > SCUBA equivalent of fight club... THAT WAS MAY FUCKING OW CLASS. It was > three years before I would turn my back on my OW instructor. He felt his > job was to prepare me for ANYTHING!!! EXCEPT FOR HIM!!! With his help I > have done, and seen, things I never expected possible when I first walked > into his OW class. Now I look in amazement at "twenty year veteran divers" > who don't look as good in the water as the his divers and mine do during > their OW checkout dives. I never feel any better than when a student comes > back to me and says " I thought you were a prick in class but..... Thanks > for the training!" > > I was trained to be a quality diver not just one of a quantity of > divers. It's time to point this shit out and make everyone aware of the > crap that is going on. Let these people know what a shitty job their > instructor did. Make them question why they gave him their money in the > first place. And most importantly get a stack of business cards from the > best instructors you know and hand them out!!! Support the good ones and > turn away as many as you can from the bad ones. > > Time to get off the soap box but damn this just burns my ass. Now all I > need to really fuck up the week is to hear that Janet has a fucking heart > attack while looking for Tony's missing gear. I'm praying not!!! > > At 09:15 AM 8/3/00 , Jim Cobb wrote: > >I really don't like it when divers die. This saddens me greatly. > > > >I hope that the lesson is not lost here, but with all you hard-headed, > >dumbass divers out there I'm sure it will be. > > > > Jim > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/ > > > > Bill (aquadart) Bott > > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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