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I think George would have tried to paint "Whistler's Mother" in
miniature with a can of Rustoleum Spray paint- he's never been known to
be subtle or delicate when hyperbole and diatribe are available.
Nevertheless, being a Noo Jorzy diver, I have to say that, as usual, he
is both right and wrong.
In the past year, I have seen training by literally half a dozen shops,
from four different agencies, and probably close to a dozen instructors
in action.
I have seen advanced OW certification dives take place in 20 feet in a
sheltered quarry and basic OW dives in surging surf with less than 5
foot visibility with a downpour going on at the surface. I have been
hit on the head by an instructor who dropped from the surface, ignored
my bubbles and only noticed my presence after she had knocked my reg out
of my mouth with her AL 80. I have also seen training that still can be
best described as "open water boot camp" run by a woman who not only
demands the highest standards from her students, but also hand picks and
trains instructors who do the same. These students, when the go on
their first boat dive are ready for the swells, currents, cold, and poor
vis that characterize our area. I have dived on boats where you don't
get into the water DIW, and on boats where no one understands DIR.
So, given the concentration of divers and operations in this area, to
try any kind of generalization is the worst form of BS.
BTW, I'm going to the San Diego with Wahoo in the morning.
Wendell Grogan
Trey wrote:
>
> I'll be glad to list and "go on " about the idiots
> in Florida, but you guys are the worst in that you
> take your direction from the lowest common
> denominators in diving, the boat monkeys, and most
> of you fight anything that makes any sense. The
> loudest of you are the worst of the idiots, like
> Sutton, Fat Danny, and others.
>
> It never ceases to amaze me - you have Wall Street
> guys making a million dollars a year listening to
> the equivalent of roofers on the dive boats,
> schnorring ,freeloading bums who have big mouths and
> think they are tough guys. Not ONE of these strokes
> could put in deco bottles for us without causing a
> roar of laughter, and not one of these morons is
> anything but an idiot or a bad influence on anyone
> and everyone around them, and then you have the boat
> captains who tolerate this shit, like Mafftones'
> ridiculous nonsense or the likes of the slob on the
> Seeker who can't tell his ass from a porthole.
>
> Florida is the home of institutionalized stupidity
> in the form of training agencies run by morons who
> themselves do not do any diving,and their legions of
> "instructors", or good ole boy fat slob cave clowns,
> and dive boats who are full of the worst collection
> of bullshit you have ever seen in the guise of "tec"
> training.
>
> You guys still take the cake and even have some of
> the third world idiots beat completely. They have a
> better grip on diving in Croatia than you dumb fucks
> do in New York Fucking City. A disgrace .
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul L <pldive@vi*.co*>
> To: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>
> Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Date: Thursday, August 03, 2000 5:30 PM
> Subject: Re: Fw: ABC on Diving the San Diego
>
> >Let's not say "ALL". Some of us are squared away.
> But there are some very sad
> >cases who call themselves tech divers. I believe
> there are also some deaths in
> >FL and we don't go on about the idiots in FL.
> >
> >Quoting Trey <trey@ne*.co*>:
> >
> >> Gee, what a surprise! Steve Belineda told me.
> "you
> >> really need to take a look at Maffatone's rig" -
> I
> >> laughed. Not so funny now.
> >>
> >> How much longer is the idiocy going to go on in
> New
> >> England guys? You all are the worst idiots in
> diving -
> >> all of you.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Pete Wallace
> <PWallace@He*.RJ*.co*>
> >> To: 'trey@ne*.co*' <trey@ne*.co*>
> >> Date: Thursday, August 03, 2000 10:43 AM
> >> Subject: FW: ABC on Diving the San Diego
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >From: Pete Wallace
> [mailto:hwallac1@ta*.rr*.co*]
> >> >Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 6:25 AM
> >> >To: H. Peter Wallace
> >> >Subject: FW: ABC on Diving the San Diego
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >From: Jsuw@ao*.co* [mailto:Jsuw@ao*.co*]
> >> >Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 11:23 PM
> >> >To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
> >> >Subject: Re: ABC on Diving the San Diego
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >http://www.news12.com/longisland/stories/story_0802
> 00
> >> _divingaccident.shtml
> >> >
> >> >The above link begins:
> >> >
> >> >"The Suffolk County Police Homicide Squad is
> >> investigating the circumstances
> >> >surrounding a diving accident which occurred
> early
> >> Tuesday afternoon by the
> >> >wreck of the U.S.S. San Diego.
> >> >
> >> >Fifty-six year old Anthony N. Maffatone of
> >> Bloomingdale, New Jersey, along
> >> >with six other divers, was aboard the "WAHOO,"
> which
> >> is a fifty foot long
> >> >diving boat. The divers were seven and a half
> miles
> >> due south of Fire Island
> >> >Pines, over the wreck of the U.S.S. San Diego."
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
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