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Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 07:54:58 -0400
From: gzambeck1 <gzambeck1@me*.ne*>
To: Phi Le <phi@sk*.be*>
CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: DIR talk vs DIR diving
Did some work on on maze solving robots several years ago.
Would like to apply this to rebreather self diagnostics.

Greg Z.

Phi Le wrote:

> Greg,
>
> Over the last few years, I have became really impressed with your vast
> knowledge on all diving subjects. Is there anything involve diving that you
> don't know  or haven't done ?
>
> -Phi
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gzambeck1 [mailto:gzambeck1@me*.ne*]
> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 3:39 AM
> To: Steve Schultz
> Cc: CaptnDale@ao*.co*; mjblackmd@ya*.co*; techdiver@aquanaut.com
> Subject: Re: DIR talk vs DIR diving
>
> Steve:
>
> Have you done much work on the DFC (Dynamic Flow Control) of the first stage
> of the
> Balanced Diaphragm first stage to reduce the IPD ( Intermediate Pressure
> Dropout)?
>
>  Did some work on the Odins to increase performance of regulator ports,
> worked  well on
> some 400 ft stuff a few years ago.  Sheck didn't have much experience in
> colder water
> since he dove in water below 60 deg F.
>
> Scuba Pro gets a bad rap since the basic models are a good solid design for
> most
> recreational diving.
>
> Greg Zambeck
>
> Steve Schultz wrote:
>
> > I was getting some ice diving info from one of the Swedish brothers a
> > while back.  I believe they use MK14's with apeks seconds under the ice
> > for big dives.  I wish there were more info out there on this cold water
> > stuff.  From what it seems to me, those Swedish guys are the ones to talk
> > to about dives like this.
> >
> > BTW, they use enviro kits on the 1st stages.
> >
> > steve
> >
> > On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, gzambeck1 wrote:
> >
> > > So your willing to say that a MK10  used 200 ft under the ice on air,
> set to these
> > > pressures (125 to 145 psi above ambient) is not going to freeze up on
> me?  Is this
> > > statement also good for Trimix (TX12/45) at 330 under the above
> condition?.  This
> > > is in consideration of the specific heat of the gas mixtures.
> > >
> > > Greg Zambeck
> > >
> > >
> > > CaptnDale@ao*.co* wrote:
> > >
> > > > In a message dated 7/29/00 7:38:40 AM Central Daylight Time,
> > > > gzambeck1@me*.ne* writes:
> > > >
> > > > << On the MK14 regulator, what is the interstage pressure and the
> second stage
> > > >  cracking pressure that you set the regulator for both recreational
> and
> > > > technical
> > > >  diving? >>
> > > >
> > > > The factory spec for the intermediate pressure of all Scubapro first
> stages
> > > > is 125 to 145 psi above ambient.  Usually, out of the box, the factory
> > > > setting will be about 140 to 145psi.  They are set to the high end of
> the
> > > > range for better airflow for the recreational diver.  I adjust the
> i.p. down
> > > > to near 125psi for cold water.  Even with the older style MK10, MK15
> and MK20
> > > > if the i.p. is set low like this there is little likelyhood of icing,
> unless
> > > > you are a real Hoover or you do something stupid like using your
> second stage
> > > > to directly fill a lift bag.  The new model of the MK20 has a
> composite
> > > > piston and an insulating sleeve with sharp ridges to break away ice.
> I think
> > > > that it should be a pretty good cold water regulator as long as the
> i.p. is
> > > > reset low.  The MK14 is nearly impervious to freeze-up.
> > > >
> > > > I usually set Scubapro balanced second stages, such as the G250, G500
> and
> > > > S600 for a breaking pressure of between 1" to 1.4" H2O -- more to the
> high
> > > > side for cold water.  The D400 does not need to be readjusted for cold
> water.
> > > >
> > > > Safe diving,
> > > > Dale
>
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