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From: "Phi Le" <phi@sk*.be*>
To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: RE: DIR talk vs DIR diving
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 18:34:48 +0200
Greg,

Over the last few years, I have became really impressed with your vast
knowledge on all diving subjects. Is there anything involve diving that you
don't know  or haven't done ?

-Phi

-----Original Message-----
From: gzambeck1 [mailto:gzambeck1@me*.ne*]
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 3:39 AM
To: Steve Schultz
Cc: CaptnDale@ao*.co*; mjblackmd@ya*.co*; techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: DIR talk vs DIR diving


Steve:

Have you done much work on the DFC (Dynamic Flow Control) of the first stage
of the
Balanced Diaphragm first stage to reduce the IPD ( Intermediate Pressure
Dropout)?

 Did some work on the Odins to increase performance of regulator ports,
worked  well on
some 400 ft stuff a few years ago.  Sheck didn't have much experience in
colder water
since he dove in water below 60 deg F.

Scuba Pro gets a bad rap since the basic models are a good solid design for
most
recreational diving.

Greg Zambeck

Steve Schultz wrote:

> I was getting some ice diving info from one of the Swedish brothers a
> while back.  I believe they use MK14's with apeks seconds under the ice
> for big dives.  I wish there were more info out there on this cold water
> stuff.  From what it seems to me, those Swedish guys are the ones to talk
> to about dives like this.
>
> BTW, they use enviro kits on the 1st stages.
>
> steve
>
> On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, gzambeck1 wrote:
>
> > So your willing to say that a MK10  used 200 ft under the ice on air,
set to these
> > pressures (125 to 145 psi above ambient) is not going to freeze up on
me?  Is this
> > statement also good for Trimix (TX12/45) at 330 under the above
condition?.  This
> > is in consideration of the specific heat of the gas mixtures.
> >
> > Greg Zambeck
> >
> >
> > CaptnDale@ao*.co* wrote:
> >
> > > In a message dated 7/29/00 7:38:40 AM Central Daylight Time,
> > > gzambeck1@me*.ne* writes:
> > >
> > > << On the MK14 regulator, what is the interstage pressure and the
second stage
> > >  cracking pressure that you set the regulator for both recreational
and
> > > technical
> > >  diving? >>
> > >
> > > The factory spec for the intermediate pressure of all Scubapro first
stages
> > > is 125 to 145 psi above ambient.  Usually, out of the box, the factory
> > > setting will be about 140 to 145psi.  They are set to the high end of
the
> > > range for better airflow for the recreational diver.  I adjust the
i.p. down
> > > to near 125psi for cold water.  Even with the older style MK10, MK15
and MK20
> > > if the i.p. is set low like this there is little likelyhood of icing,
unless
> > > you are a real Hoover or you do something stupid like using your
second stage
> > > to directly fill a lift bag.  The new model of the MK20 has a
composite
> > > piston and an insulating sleeve with sharp ridges to break away ice.
I think
> > > that it should be a pretty good cold water regulator as long as the
i.p. is
> > > reset low.  The MK14 is nearly impervious to freeze-up.
> > >
> > > I usually set Scubapro balanced second stages, such as the G250, G500
and
> > > S600 for a breaking pressure of between 1" to 1.4" H2O -- more to the
high
> > > side for cold water.  The D400 does not need to be readjusted for cold
water.
> > >
> > > Safe diving,
> > > Dale

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