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Mike,
Since you addressed this to me I will respond. First, I have no
problems with DIR being discussed in any forum at any frequency rate. It is
a valid topic worthy of discussion. My comments were directed at someone
that questioned why you were appearing as a special guest. I'm not sure
where you got the idea I was objecting to your appearence. If I had any
objections, as the Thrusday night session host and Forum Leader/SysOp for
AOL's Scuba Forum, you'd obviously would not have been invited in the first
place.
The work you have been doing with respect to the DIR demos is to be
commended. I have no qualms or quarrels with the DIR system or any of its
proponents. I simply provided a brief explaination to how you came to be a
guest, what was involved and how others could access the area if interested
in attending. Sorry if you took that as some form of anti-DIR rhetoric.
In a message dated 8/3/00 11:14:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
mhkane@pr*.ne* writes:
> ---- Original Message -----
> From: <RDecker388@ao*.co*>
> > Gary,
> ... That doesn't necessarily make this a dead topic, however.
> >
>
> In my view whether JJ covered this issue or not isn't the fundamental
point.
> I have no doubt JJ covered many issues during his alloted time. Moreover,
> I'm sure there are still others that may have additional questions, or who
> may not have been available when JJ covered the issues.
>
> Education, discussion and an open airing of the issues are what's
important.
> I fully acknowledge others have varying viewpoints from mine. Life is full
> of choices. It seems to me that the anti-DIR crowd is very worried that as
> more people develop the requisite understanding of the system, the more it
> makes sense; the more acceptable it becomes; and more and more divers
accept
> the totality of the system.
>
> I often have these discussions, and generally what I do is focus on a few
> simple concepts. In that I suggest that at least we are presenting
> something. Many seem to want to just argue the anti- *anything* approach.
> I always suggest let's go line by line. What do you believe in your system
> is better than what we believe in the DIR system and why??? I have little,
> if any, tolerance for someone who just wants to argue for the sake of
> agrguing. If you have a position, put it forward and let's discuss the
> merits.
>
> > Jerry, who is the Scuba Forum's message board area manager, suggested
> > Mike as a guest for our regularly scheduled Thursday night feature, "Tech
> > Nite." Generally we welcome the opportunity to have new presenters for
> this
> > program. The Chat area manager, Joel Silverstein, and myself, the Forum
> > Leader, do not usually actively pursue guest presenters during the summer
> > months. The attendence and activity in the forum tends to be slow due to
> so
> > many people being busy with diving, vacations, and such. By the same
> token,
> > since Mike offered we were not inclined to turn him down either.
> >
>
> This idea actually came up when I was visiting Seattle last month for a DIR
> demo. Jerry and I met for the first time, we enjoyed discussing the issues
> and Jerry mentioned this forum. I thought it would be a good idea to
> participate. I'm not sure why there is such a firestorm surrounding the
> issue. If you want to join us fine, if not, that's fine as well..
>
>
> > Mike will be discussing a variety of topics, including DIR for
> > recreational diving, and other subjects dependent upon the questions
> > generated by attendees. As a West Coast diver he will like also discuss
> the
> > state of advanced diving in that area and possibly share some of his
> > experiences and perceptions of East Coast wreck diving based on his trips
> to
> > this side of the country.
>
> My views respecting DIR are well known. I have also had the opportunity to
> have a wide variety of experiences on both coasts. I was born and raised
in
> NY and have lived in Calif. for the last 10 years. I learned how to dive
in
> NY, I go back often, I also visit Florida often, and it is VERY apparent to
> me that each of these areas have very different *personalities* in terms of
> diving philosphies, conditions and idiosyncacies..
>
> I would welcome divergant views, but I will not engage in a flame war.
> That's not my interest. I leave that for the tech list ;-)
>
>
> Hope to *see* as many of you there tonight as possible, but please if your
> intention is to just flame I'd rather you didn't join us. I hope to make
> this a productive meeting not a flame fest.
>
> Regards
>
> Michael Kane.
>
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