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--=====================_3083250==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I received this from John Grogan and he said I could post it as he has problems posting.Just more to confirm the character of Bemis. Hi JT, Let me tell you about my interation with Bemis. A group of us (in UK) decided in 97 that we wanted to dive the Lucy, so I phoned Bemis and talked to him about it and gave him a brief rundown on who we were. He told me that there would be a fee but it was just to cover his legal costs etc and assured me that it would not be much. Well, over the course of a few months, it went from a max of $500, then to at least $500, then to at least 500 Pounds, then to 500 Pounds per day. (500 Pounds = $750) At the same time, he kept changing other conditions. First he wanted to see our cert. cards - no problem, then he wanted to see our log books - no problem we told him, but pointed out that some people don't log their dives. Then we wanted fully authenticated copies of all our dive logs and cert. cards. When asked what "fully authenticated copies of our logs" meant, we got no answer. Next, he was unhappy with our choice of dive boat because the skipper had skippered another trip where he suspected the divers removed artifacts. After talking with the skipper at length, he arranged for us to use a different boat for the days we were doing the Lucy (we had 1 week planned with 3 days on the Lucy). In the end we just gave up because everytime we came close to meeting his requirements, new ones surfaced. The guy cannot be trusted and you should never believe anything from him until you've got it on paper. I've twice heard him speak at conferences and at one he kept going on about preserving the wreck and then later talked about using explosives to get to the part of the bow on the seabed! Best, John. -----Original Message----- From: Capt JT [mailto:captjt@mi*.co*] Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 4:28 AM To: Art.Paltz@R2*.CO*; TechDiver@aquanaut.com Subject: RE: Estonia Gary's book is not the only source of my information, I also have read Robert "You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get in the water" Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more Web Site http://www.capt-jt.com/ Email captjt@mi*.co* --=====================_3083250==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" <html> I received this from John Grogan and he said I could post it as he has problems posting.Just more to confirm the character of Bemis. <br> Hi JT, <br> Let me tell you about my interation with Bemis. A group of us (in UK) <br> decided in 97 that we wanted to dive the Lucy, so I phoned Bemis and talked <br> to him about it and gave him a brief rundown on who we were. He told me <br> that there would be a fee but it was just to cover his legal costs etc and <br> assured me that it would not be much. Well, over the course of a few <br> months, it went from a max of $500, then to at least $500, then to at least <br> 500 Pounds, then to 500 Pounds per day. (500 Pounds = $750)<br> At the same time, he kept changing other conditions. First he wanted to see <br> our cert. cards - no problem, then he wanted to see our log books - no <br> problem we told him, but pointed out that some people don't log their dives. <br> Then we wanted fully authenticated copies of all our dive logs and cert. <br> cards. When asked what "fully authenticated copies of our logs" meant, we <br> got no answer.<br> Next, he was unhappy with our choice of dive boat because the skipper had <br> skippered another trip where he suspected the divers removed artifacts. <br> After talking with the skipper at length, he arranged for us to use a <br> different boat for the days we were doing the Lucy (we had 1 week planned <br> with 3 days on the Lucy).<br> In the end we just gave up because everytime we came close to meeting his <br> requirements, new ones surfaced. The guy cannot be trusted and you should <br> never believe anything from him until you've got it on paper.<br> I've twice heard him speak at conferences and at one he kept going on about <br> preserving the wreck and then later talked about using explosives to get to <br> the part of the bow on the seabed!<br> <br> Best, <br> John.<br> -----Original Message----- <br> From: Capt JT [<a href="mailto:captjt@mi*.co*" eudora="autourl"><font color="#0000FF"><u>mailto:captjt@mi*.co*</a></font></u>] <br> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 4:28 AM <br> To: Art.Paltz@R2*.CO*; TechDiver@aquanaut.com <br> Subject: RE: Estonia<br> <br> Gary's book is not the only source of my information, I also have read <br> Robert <br> <br> "You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get in the water"<br> <font color="#0000FF"><u>Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more<br> Web Site <a href="http://www.capt-jt.com/" eudora="autourl">http://www.capt-jt.com/</a><br> Email captjt@mi*.co*<br> <br> </font></u></html> --=====================_3083250==_.ALT-- -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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