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From: "Richard Pyle" <deepreef@bi*.or*>
To: "Trey" <trey@ne*.co*>, "TechDiver List" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: RE: Hypocrisy is DCS in DIR
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 14:43:47 -1000

Oh, so you *are* really that stupid.

Rich

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trey [mailto:trey@ne*.co*]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 2:51 PM
> To: Richard Pyle; TechDiver List
> Subject: Re: Hypocrisy is DCS in DIR
> 
> 
> Richie, put out the dive your way and let's talk
> about it, or you talk about it and I will stay out
> of it.  Personally, I think it is pathetic.
> 
>  You blunder around with bullshit at me and then
> forget all about in conveniently, like the
> rebreather ppo2 thing and the deco silliness when
> you find out better later on in your young life.
> 
>  I can go back and retrieve the silliness out of you
> if you need to see it about how Stone and the Cis
> had an advantage over me at Wakulla . You found out
> better - everybody did.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Pyle <deepreef@bi*.or*>
> To: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>; TechDiver List
> <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Date: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 8:18 PM
> Subject: RE: Hypocrisy is DCS in DIR
> 
> 
> >
> >Are you just trolling, or are you really *that*
> stupid?
> >
> >Rich
> >
> >> I know ( about the weenie dives ), that is why I
> >> avoid them and only go for the real deal. I did
> not
> >> want to lie about you , Richie, as the truth is
> so
> >> much better than anything I could ever make up.
> Come
> >> on , think about it, you were supped to be diving
> >> the 12" dick of rebreathers that was holding a
> >> constant 1.4 ppo2, and you go paralyzed on a dive
> >> that I would do no deco for in that situation
>  1.4
> >> constant). At the time you were telling me how I
> >> cloud save so much deco on the Cis Lunar over my
> >> machine. Funny now, but when your boy Stone got
> to
> >> test that theory at Wakulla, his jello crash test
> >> dummies did four times my deco for on third the
> dive
> >> and still got bent  - A real hoot.
> >>
> >> I do believe and you proved that one can get a
> >> severe whack on shallow dives and any yo yo
> profile
> >> with enough gas in the body, and you were diving
> for
> >> several days, Richard, like a bad boy.
> >>
> >> If you keep it up there may be a place for you in
> >> the Special Olympics. Be careful.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Richard Pyle <deepreef@bi*.or*>
> >> >I don't expect you to remember anything.  I just
> >> expect you to refrain from
> >> >lying about me.  Also, as I would have assumed
> that
> >> you already knew (but
> >> >maybe not) -- it's the "weenie" dives that get
> you.
> >> That was the main
> >> >reason I posted the details of that incident.
> >> >
> >> >Rich
> >> >
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: Trey [mailto:trey@ne*.co*]
> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 4:29 AM
> >> >> To: Richard Pyle; TechDiver List
> >> >> Subject: Re: Hypocrisy is DCS in DIR
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Rich, a weenie dive is a weenie dive - don't
> >> expect me
> >> >> to remember all the details every time you get
> >> bent -
> >> >> I don't consider any of your dives to require
> >> more
> >> >> than a safety stop and a vivid imagination.
> >> >>
> >> >> Actually, the reference to your dives was not
> >> >> dependent on the details,but only the fact
> that
> >> you
> >> >> reported it. I was being accused of being an
> >> idiot for
> >> >> getting skin bends,while you were being
> praised
> >> for
> >> >> reporting your bends cases in the same post.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: Richard Pyle <deepreef@bi*.or*>
> >> >> To: TechDiver List <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> >> >> Date: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 7:15 AM
> >> >> Subject: Re: Hypocrisy is DCS in DIR
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >Slow down, there, Chief.  You should consider
> >> >> yourself pretty lucky that I
> >> >> >don't step in every time you lie about other
> >> people,
> >> >> or else our usual
> >> >> >"game" would dominate the traffic on the
> list.
> >> But
> >> >> when you lie about me
> >> >> >(=everytime you mention my name on the list),
> >> you
> >> >> know that I can't let it
> >> >> >go.  I have no recollection of ever getting
> >> bends
> >> >> symptoms after any
> >> >> >45-minute
> >> >> >dive to 90 feet.  Maybe you're confusing it
> with
> >> the
> >> >> time I got bends
> >> >> >symptoms
> >> >> >after a dive where I spent twice that much
> time
> >> at
> >> >> depths 10-40 feet deeper?
> >> >> >That
> >> >> >was a decompression dive, and I had to
> discard
> >> >> two-thirds of the required
> >> >> >deco due
> >> >> >to unexpectedly unfriendly "natives".
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Now, be a big boy, stick your tail between
> your
> >> legs,
> >> >> and leave me out of
> >> >> >it.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Rich
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Jeff, you see we are considered to have
> an
> >> unfair
> >> >> advantage since we try
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> > do what it takes, not take what comes.
> >> Richie is
> >> >> easy for them to
> >> >> >identify
> >> >> >> > with - he is telling them their worst
> inner
> >> >> fears - they want to hear
> >> >> >it,
> >> >> >> > not that it is bullshit and we DIR. Pyle
> got
> >> >> paralized on a 45 minute
> >> >> >1.4
> >> >> >> > ppo2 dive at 90 feet - a no deco dive.
> That
> >> is
> >> >> the kind of shit they
> >> >> >love
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> > eat with a spoon.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > From: Jeff Bentley <jeff@be*.co*>
> >> >> >> > To: Michael J. Black
> <mjblackmd@ya*.co*>
> >> >> >> > Cc: Aquanaut Mail
> <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> >> >> >> > Date: Friday, June 30, 2000 8:53 PM
> >> >> >> > Subject: Re: Hypocrisy is DCS in DIR
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > >Let's see.. which example should I
> follow?
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >A) The DIR example where skin bends can
> be
> >> >> viewed as part
> >> >> >> > >   of the "learning your individual deco
> >> limits"
> >> >> process
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >or
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >B) The Rich Pyle example where you dive
> >> deep,
> >> >> get paralyzed,
> >> >> >> > >   and tell everyone about your screwup
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >hmmm....
> >> >> >> > >Jeff
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >"Michael J. Black" wrote:
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> Someone's missing the point.  When DCS
> >> happens
> >> >> to DIR divers like
> >> >> >> > >> Trey and his minions, it blows DIR
> Myth 1
> >> out
> >> >> of the water (DIR has
> >> >> >> > >> had NO fatalaties or accidents).
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> When you DIR loudmouths preach that
> >> you've
> >> >> never been hurt (as
> >> >> >> > >> Volker once said, "not even had the
> >> slightest
> >> >> twinge") I suspect
> >> >> >> > >> you are FOS, and your DCS (slobitis)
> >> >> confessions merely prove it.
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> I believe Richie Pyle did us all a
> great
> >> >> service by posting his
> >> >> >> > >> bout with severe DCS.  You DIR guys
> keep
> >> >> pounding your chests about
> >> >> >> > >> how infallible you are, and then
> suddenly
> >> the
> >> >> truth reveals itself,
> >> >> >> > >> and you have a knipshin when MJB
> points
> >> out
> >> >> your hypocrisy.
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> And in true DIR style, you point the
> >> finger
> >> >> and accuse someone
> >> >> >> > >> else (me) of being a hypocrite.
> Sorry,
> >> but I
> >> >> don't follow your
> >> >> >> > >> logic, or lack of.  Got any more
> >> skeletons in
> >> >> your closet?
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> MJB
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >>
> >>
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> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Richard L. Pyle
> >> >> >> Ichthyology, Bishop Museum
> >> >> >> 1525 Bernice St., Honolulu, HI 96817
> >> >> >> Ph: (808)848-4115, Fax: (808)847-8252
> >> >> >> email: deepreef@bi*.or*
> >> >> >>
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