Simon, what is so funny is that they are all so
concerned about my opinion. That means they know I am
right.

If I were obviously wrong or did not make any sense,
then nobody would care what I said.

What they all really want is for me to be quiet about
everything so they don't look so fucking stupid.

I love it when they try to badmouth me, and then the
new folks find out who I really am.


----Original Message-----
From: Simon Murray <simonm@ho*.co*.za*>
To: Jim Cobb <cobber@ma*.ci*.co*>; Tech Diver
<techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Date: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: OzTek 2000


>The only people down here who despise George are the
strokes who dont like what he is
>saying.
>
>It has actually become a good test of just how full
of bull an individual is- the most
>hardened strokes despise him the most, making them
easy to spot and avoid.
>
>
>Simon Murray
>
>South Africa
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ma*.ci*.co*>
>To: <HeliumDiver@ao*.co*>; <JJ@gu*.co*>;
<cavers@ca*.co*>; <techdiver@aquanaut.com>;
><mcmillan_knit@on*.ne*.au*>; <trey@ne*.co*>
>Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 3:37 PM
>Subject: Re: OzTek 2000
>
>
>> Nope, George is not despised in any circles around
here that I know of. How
>> 'bout the rest of you circles out there?
>>
>> Helium, I don't think your delicate sensibilities
are cut out for tech
>> diving. Have you considered potting plants? I
understand the techpotting
>> list is quite polite and accommodating to even the
most tender, soft,
>> moist-eyed individual, a perfect match for you.
>>
>>    Jim
>>  --------------------------------------------------
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>> > From: <HeliumDiver@ao*.co*>
>> > Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 21:50:56 EDT
>> > To: JJ@gu*.co*, cavers@ca*.co*,
techdiver@aquanaut.com,
>> > mcmillan_knit@on*.ne*.au*, trey@ne*.co*
>> > Subject: RE: OzTek 2000
>> >
>> > JJ,
>> >
>> > While I believe that canceling as they did was a
shitty thing to do, you
>> > should realize that this kind of thing, however
nasty, will continue to
>> > happen to you.  Why?  Because you closely
associate yourself with
>> > George Irvine, a man widely despised in diving
circles; not for his
>> > message but for his insensitive and nasty
delivery.  You, by not denouncing
>> > his abusiveness, de facto condone and encourage
it and are therefore a party
>> > to it.
>> >
>> > If you don't like being treated badly, perhaps
you should see to it that
>> > you don't treat others badly yourself.
>> >
>> >
>> >> With all due respect it is extremely
unprofessional and, in my opinion,
>> >> dishonest to contact someone months ahead and
over the course of several
>> >> communications requesting they join the show
only to cancel two weeks
>> >> before the show. All the excuses as to why this
fell apart are actually
>> >> more insulting than the games that came before.
Nothing "fell apart" as you
>> >> suggest.  Like most people I hate to waste time
but I am more resentful of
>> >> being treated like an idiot. Where you seeing
this from my POV you would
>> >> likely agree. The games and dishonesty are the
most troubling. Organizers
>> >> get to decide who they invite and I have no
problem with that. Deception
>> >> and games are where the irritation lies.
>> >>
>> >> Best wishes,
>> >> JJ
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