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Bullshit - I do not have time for this . You really have to be kidding.You let me know when you get it al figured out, and I'll go tell the guys at Navy that all of their tests are bullshit, and you guys have the NEW WAY, and then I'll do it myself and ignore years of dives that you do not even fathom. -----Original Message----- From: Matthias Voss <mat.voss@t-*.de*> To: Trey <trey@ne*.co*> Cc: MMikeodin@ao*.co* <MMikeodin@ao*.co*>; rsilvers@ph*.co* <rsilvers@ph*.co*>; techdiver@aquanaut.com <techdiver@aquanaut.com> Date: Monday, July 10, 2000 11:56 AM Subject: Re: Argon in drysuit -- how much warmer? > > >Trey schrieb: >> >> This is totally ignorant bullshit. >Compared to your normal nomenclature, does this mean, you partially >agree ;-)? > > Argon is a far >> superior gas for suit inflation than air or anything >> else, and it increases the effectiveness of >> Thinsulate insulation by 50%. > >This may right, espescially regarding thinsulate. But Mike compared >argon use regarding different types of breathing gas. Do temperature >losses add arithmetically, or in a logarithmic scale ? >according to most known laws or rather rules of perception ( Weber- >Fechner's, to name one), bodily reactions to pphysical changes are >measured in a decibel scale. Translated to heat-loss terms this would >mean, that even if your suit Isolation may be better, the loss by >expansion and conductivity of breathing gas outweighs the win . > >> If the suit floods at all, Argon and thinsulate >> combination is still better than regular insulation >> dry with no argon. > >Won't like to try out , but if it's right, is it because of argon >bubbles kept within the tissue ? > > >> You also have to flush the air out of the suit prior >> to the dive with argon. > >This seems to make a lot of sense, indeed. >regards >Matthias > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: MMikeodin@ao*.co* <MMikeodin@ao*.co*> >> To: rsilvers@ph*.co* >> <rsilvers@ph*.co*>; techdiver@aquanaut.com >> <techdiver@aquanaut.com> >> Date: Monday, July 10, 2000 3:46 AM >> Subject: Re: Argon in drysuit -- how much warmer? >> >> Argon in an extra bottle makes only sense if you >> dive mix. >> As you need an extra gas for suit inflation.IMHO if >> you dive N2O2 only you >> won´t need argon. >> Even when diving mix I ´ld rather take air and eat >> some more pasta the night >> before than using argon. >> The suit should leave enough space to wear an G400 >> undersuit. >> Check the undersuit, avoid a too loose fit of the >> undergarment as this is a >> major reason for migrating air in you drysuit.If the >> underwear is too wide >> bring it to the taylor and alter it to your needs. >> TLS+G400 should fit in a way that you can move >> without anyrestricions. >> If your dives last longer&it´s still cold although >> eating pasta+G400 it´s >> still time to think about argon inflation. >> Mike >> -- >> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to >> `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to >> `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. >> >> -- >> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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