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Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 07:40:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: Esat Atikkan <atikkan@ya*.co*>
Subject: Re: HEADACHES WHILE DIVING
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Interesting point except what escapes me is how the
anti-platelet activity is going to eliminate the
putative autochtonous bubble mediated DCS symptomology
- as in cord.
Safe bubbles
Esat Atikkan


> In terms of "masking" DCS.  No.
> These drugs actually get to the root of the
> symptoms.  They stop DCS
> symptoms because they block a key part of the
> illness.  If you have
> symptoms despite taking these drugs, seek treatment.
>  If you don't have
> symptoms, you probably don't have DCS.  This is not
> like taking morphine
> to prevent pain from a stab wound.  Its more like
> taking quinine to
> prevent malaria.
> BTW, I'm going diving in the deep blue for a week!
> Later guys!
> Wendell G
> 
> 
> > Wendell,
> > 
> > That is what I've suspected. It's been said for
> years that aspirin was
> > "maybe" an aid--probably a very small one--for the
> prevention of DCS. That
> > some aggressive divers are taking it and other
> such over-the-counter
> > medications isn't surprising given the insidious
> and unpredictable nature of
> > DCS.
> > 
> > The conclusion I read everywhere is that there
> isn't enough research,
> > there's only a intelligent-guess suspicion that it
> works. If it has been
> > "long recommended" as SOP for deco diving, who has
> recommended it and what
> > do they base that recommendation on? I'd still
> like to see research that
> > definitively says, "aspirin and ibuprofen can
> reduce the risk of DCS."
> > 
> > There is research, but within the research I've
> seen there are probably as
> > many new questions as there are answers. The best
> anyone can say is that
> > aspirin ought to be beneficial. As to dosage, I
> did read in at least one
> > diving medicine document that as little as 1/4 of
> a normal tablet of aspirin
> > will provide the full platelet effect.
> > 
> > Ibuprofen affects platelets too, but in a
> different way. Do you think that
> > there is any concern at all for divers who are
> taking larger doses of
> > aspirin and ibuprofen together? I've seen one
> person suggest that he takes
> > 800 mg predive and an additional 800 mg every four
> hours of ibuprofen and an
> > unstated amount of aspirin as well.
> > 
> > How big is the bleeding concern for this type of
> dosage? And to restate my
> > previous concern, is there any concern at all that
> dosages like this could
> > mask subtle DCS symptoms and thereby delay
> treatment?
> > 
> > This isn't a zero-sum game. If it actually works
> and its been proven that it
> > does then it's a good thing for all deco divers
> within the boundaries of
> > risk that I suggest.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > JoeL
> 
> -- 
> "There are two kinds of people, those who do the
> work
>         and those who take the credit. Try to be in
> the
>         first group; there is less competition
> there."
>                    (Indira Gandhi)
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