Karl, I still think that 8 deaths in 3 years by a single RB where the divers were not being shot at (like MK-15, LAR-V, etc.) is still the highest. Do we have any number of deaths in the first 3 years for the Dolphin, BioMarines, Cis-Lunar, Prism or Halcyon ? I would bet that it is a lot lower or none existed. I still can't believe that you think 8 deaths in 3 years is acceptable based on any reason. I didn't think there is an acceptable ratio of number of deaths versus number of dives being done. You might be right about the quality of training that has something to do with it as well. But that's also involving the manufacturer since they approve of which agency allow to train the divers. Is it only IANTD allowed to train divers on the Inspiration ? How many deaths involved the Pinto (blown up when hit from behind) before it was recalled instead of blaming the driving instructors ? The first death was a few years back, nothing was done. More people died, and now the blame is on bad luck ? Anyway, I am not going to ask any more. You guys are not going to do anything, but just blaming the divers on age/attitude/drysuit/luck. We'll see how that hold up in court. -Phi -----Original Message----- From: Karl.W.Kramer@ph*.un*.de* [mailto:Karl.W.Kramer@ph*.un*.de*] Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2000 5:31 PM To: techdiver@aquanaut.com Subject: RE: Inspiration death AGAIN! From: "Phi Le" <phi@SK*.BE*> > Karl, > > Just want to make sure I understood you correctly... > > Are you saying that the Inspiration group has the highest ratio of > badluck-old-poorlytrained-badattitude-shittydrysuit divers, and that's why > they have the highest death ratio of the last 3 years ? Phi, look what is dived ! A rebreather that has a sales rate close to zero and of wich the sold units are mostly 'used' as dust catchers can easy have a low total number of accidents. The safest rebreather is the one with the lowest bodycount per dive, NOT simply the one with the lowest total number of fatalities. So: what dive counts were reached by other rebreathers in thier first 3 years ? When You ask me about the quality of training I have to send you back to those agencies where the dead received thier training. I'm only willing to speak with but not about agencies. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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