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Karl, I think George said it perfectly. The main attraction to the Inspiration is the price and the ease of training. This is just my personal opinion... I would guess that the *typical* (not all) Inspiration divers aren't advanced/tech divers to start with. So they aren't used to dive task-loaded, and expect the machine to take care of them sortaspeak. I would doubt if the Inspiration training is as difficult as for example, the Halcyon. I remember my Halcyon course with Errol was harder than the trimix course with him. And the Halcyon is as close to OC as possible. So the combination of an average skilled diver using a complex machine with possibly inadequate training could be lethal. There have been a number of deaths (8+?) over the last 3 years, and as far as I know, only 2 inquests have been done. You mentioned the cause of the problem was known and published in every case ? What was the main problem then ? And if everyone knows about these problems, why are people keep dying on the unit ? About your comment on dangerous hobbies, only the dangerous nature of these hobbies are accepted by the participants (i.e skydiving, rockclimbing, etc.) The gear are expected to perform as advertised. For example, if the climber back clipped (climbing term for clipping the rope wrong), fell and died. No one will question. But if the brand-new-never-dropped karabiner broke, then people will start asking. The original question was about the possible defected designs of the gear used! And I don't know what's wrong with the Inspiration, that's why I asked. And if you don't know either, let someone else answer :-) -Phi -----Original Message----- From: Karl.W.Kramer@ph*.un*.de* [mailto:Karl.W.Kramer@ph*.un*.de*] Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2000 3:13 AM To: techdiver@aquanaut.com Subject: RE: Inspiration death AGAIN! From: "Phi Le" <phi@sk*.be*> > I still think that 8 deaths in 3 years by a single RB where the divers were > not being shot at (like MK-15, LAR-V, etc.) is still the highest. Do we have > any number of deaths in the first 3 years for the Dolphin, BioMarines, > Cis-Lunar, Prism or Halcyon ? I would bet that it is a lot lower or none > existed. Phi, weight it with the Number of dives done on the models. When I asked: I found most Dolphins dived only random, among OC dives, but the Inspirations are mostly dived without still doing a siginficant ratio of OC dives. This means the Number of Dives per Turtle must be sigificant higher for the Inspiration than for the Atlantis=Dolphin, so that the Inspiration propably has a lower toll per dive. The other Types you mentioned are sold in such low numbers (at least to private persons) that they can't have a statistic. Yes, any toll is too high to stop thinking, but don't tell this me, I'm not one of those who offers weekend classes or has ever done this. > The first death was a few years back, nothing was done. More people died, > and now the blame is on bad luck ? No, there were detailed analysis and every Inspiration-Diver knows what has happend in every case where the body was recovered and the analysis is compleate. That's why that many peoples blame the Inspiration: because each case was diskussed in order to lower the bodycount by knowing what went wrong. When comparing you will find a lot of well accepted hobbies which have a higher bodycount per excursion than Inspiration-Diving but we did not stop working for a better safety. By that way: what is the US count per 60tousend (non-rec) OC Cave-Dives ? > I am not going to ask any more. Why don't you tell us what to check after accendents ? If You have an Idea what's wrong: don't keep it a secret. -- with the best wishes, Karl http://KarlKramer.de (more than 1800 SCUBA-Links) http://Rebreather.de (Nitrox and Rebreater Diving) news:alt.sport.dive.rebreather (is my favorite Newsgroup) -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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