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From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: <klind@al*.ne*>, "Techdiver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Drug tesing wasRe: Dive Master's Wanted
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 19:33:13 -0400
Too bad they don't pot test cave instructors - would not be too many left.
One particular favorite of mine out there keeps his pot in a Pelican box
when he goes cave diving. Any one care to guess who this one is?

-----Original Message-----
From: Kent Lind <klind@al*.ne*>
To: Techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Date: Saturday, June 17, 2000 6:23 PM
Subject: RE: Dive Master's Wanted


>Alton:
>
>How does the dive industry get away with only sporadic use of testing?  Are
>the regulations simply not being enforced? Out of curiousity I looked up
the
>USCG pre-employment drug testing regulations at 40 CFR 16.210 and they are
>pretty explicit.  I read these regulations to require manadatory
>pre-employment testing for ALL crew members that work at sea.  This would
>appear to apply to any divemaster that works at sea.  The UCGC regs at 46
CFR
>16 also include requirements for periodic testing, random testing, and
testing
>after serious marine accidents.  These also appear to apply to divemasters
>working at sea.  I was never able to get out of any of this when I used to
>work at sea as a fisheries observer.  Here's the CFR cite for
pre-employment
>testing.  The entire section can be found at
>http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/waisidx_99/46cfr16_99.html
>
>---------------------------------------------------------
>[Code of Federal Regulations]
>[Title 46, Volume 1, Parts 1 to 40]
>[Revised as of October 1, 1999]
>
>                           TITLE 46--SHIPPING
>
>PART 16--CHEMICAL TESTING--Table of Contents
>
>                  Subpart B--Required Chemical Testing
>
>Sec. 16.210  Pre-employment testing requirements.
>
>    (a) No marine employer shall engage or employ any individual to
>serve as a crewmember unless the individual passes a chemical test for
>dangerous drugs for that employer.
>    (b) An employer may waive a pre-employment test required for a job
>applicant by paragraph (a) of this section if the individual provides
>satisfactory evidence that he or she has:
>    (1) Passed a chemical test for dangerous drugs, required by this
>part, within the previous six months with no subsequent positive drug
>tests during the remainder of the six-month period; or
>    (2) During the previous 185 days been subject to a random testing
>program required by Sec. 16.230 for at least 60 days and did not fail or
>refuse to participate in a chemical test for dangerous drugs required by
>this part.
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Alton Hall, Jr. [mailto:ahall@da*.co*]
>> Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2000 10:47 AM
>> To: Trey
>> Cc: Christian Gerzner; klind@al*.ne*; Techdiver
>> Subject: Re: Dive Master's Wanted
>>
>>
>> Interestingly random drug testing is used only sporadically in the
>> commercial
>> dive industries. As of last week the Federal Appellate Court that
>> controls the
>> Gulf states ruled that OSHA did not apply leaving only USCG regulations.
The
>> Coast Guard requires mandatory drug testing in all cases involving
serious
>> injury. I am often amazed at the high rate of drug use detected when such
>> "unannounced" testing is performed. Recently a 10 man dive crew
>> all tested positive for either cocaine or marijuana use. Perhaps the ADC
can
>> learn a lesson from the WKPP.
>> Alton
>>
>> Trey wrote:
>>
>> > OK, I thought maybe you were Chrissy Brown in disguise or
>> something. I know
>> > for a fact how stupid drug use is, and will not tolerate it in
>> the WKPP, and
>> > neither will any other intelligent person who knows anything about
drugs.
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Christian Gerzner <christiang@pi*.co*.au*>
>> > To: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>
>> > Cc: klind@al*.ne* <klind@al*.ne*>; Techdiver
>> <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>> > Date: Saturday, June 17, 2000 12:00 AM
>> > Subject: Re: Dive Master's Wanted
>> >
>> > >Trey, Kent,
>> > >
>> > >My comment may have been taken incorrectly, I simply was trying to say
>> > >that it is sad that the drug problem has apparently escalated to such
an
>> > >extent in your neck of the woods that drug testing now seems to be a
>> > >routine requirement for "mission critical" operations.
>> > >
>> > >No, it is not a requirement (yet?) in Oz.
>> > >
>> > >Christian
>> > >
>> > >Trey wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Kent, I agree with you 100% .
>> > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > >> From: Kent Lind <klind@al*.ne*>
>> > >> To: Christian Gerzner <christiang@pi*.co*.au*>
>> > >> Cc: Techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>; AtlanticDiver
>> > >> <AtlanticDiver@li*.co*>
>> > >> Date: Thursday, June 15, 2000 10:25 AM
>> > >> Subject: RE: Dive Master's Wanted
>> > >>
>> > >> >Actually, I don't think they have a choice.  I believe that US law
>> > requires
>> > >> >mandatory drug testing of all companies that employ a certain
>> number of
>> > >> people
>> > >> >at sea.  All the commercial fishing companies are required to do
drug
>> > >> testing
>> > >> >and I was required to do it when I was working at sea as a
fisheries
>> > >> observer.
>> > >> >So I doubt that it's something that that Outer Banks Dive
>> Center thought
>> > up
>> > >> on
>> > >> >their own.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >In any event, I don't get the thrust of your comment.  If you were
>> > running
>> > >> a
>> > >> >dive boat, would you want to place your customers in the hands of a
>> > drugged
>> > >> >out divemaster?  Maybe you do things differently in Australia.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >-Kent-
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> > >> >> From: Christian Gerzner [mailto:christiang@pi*.co*.au*]
>> > >> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 9:53 PM
>> > >> >> To: Alex Varouxis
>> > >> >> Cc: Techdiver; CyberDiver@eg*.co*; AtlanticDiver
>> > >> >> Subject: Re: Dive Master's Wanted
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Alex Varouxis wrote:
>> > >> >> (small snips)
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> > The Outer Banks Dive Center in Nags Head NC is looking
>> for Full and
>> > >> Part
>> > >> >> > times Dive Masters. For more information give them a call at
>> > >> >> 252-449-8349 or
>> > >> >> > e-mail them at macd1@ob*.co*. Must be Drug Free and
>> pass a drug
>> > >> test.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> > Must be Drug Free and pass a drug test.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Maybe it's just my age but I find that statement just so
>> dispiriting.
>> > :-(
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Christian
>> > >
>> >
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