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From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: <jimholcomb@sc*.co*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: [RecoveryDivers] Rory Dickens Memorial 6/15/00 in Jax, Fl
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 07:02:02 -0400
Jim, Fuck you , how's that? Read it and then tell me it is just an obit, it
is not. The only thing you are correct about is that Dustin did not write
it - Wes Skiles did, and his intent is clear. He uses a friend's death to
once again try to make a point against what we are working so hard to get
out, and he and his friends have resisted for so long. Skiles is a hose
stuffing butt mounter , and does not know what "Hogarthian" or "DIR" mean.

All of these "old timers" have a bug up their as about us, and constantly
try to pretend we do not exist and that they did everything - they did
nothing compared what  we have done and CONTINUE to do on a weekly basis,
and until they decide to recognize that and STFU about it, I will not give
them a moments peace.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Holcomb <jimholcomb@sc*.co*>
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Date: Saturday, June 17, 2000 5:06 AM
Subject: Re: [RecoveryDivers] Rory Dickens Memorial 6/15/00 in Jax, Fl



Unless I missed something - you were out of line on this one, Trey. I'm a
lurker and keep my mouth shut most all the time - but I believe Dustin
posted an obituary to a friend and fellow cave diver. Should have been left
at that. I do say that with all do respect to you and your accomplishments.

      Regards
        Jim




---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 05:40:29 -0400

>What I would like to know is how "everyone" was "Hogarthian" years ago and
>how all of this equipment got designed long before any of us came along,
yet
>none of you "old timers"  does it, uses it, nor is any of it available or
>understood by anyone other than those you criticize so vehemently, yet try
>so hard to pretend to be "as good as". It this what you call "DIC"? I call
>it "slow learners" ( and bullshit).
>
>Very funny that Jarrod and I had to build or have built all of our own
gear,
>and come up with all of our own systems to do the kind of diving we do.
>
>What am I missing here? Is the cave diving community of old like "planet of
>the Apes" where the entire community is not supposed to know that
technology
>exists, or is this more wishful thinking by the leftbehinds?
>
>I am glad to see that at least all of you are paying attention enough to be
>worried about it. I guess Bill Gavin is going to have to die before he ever
>gets any credit for blowing all of you old timers off the map years ago,
>coming up with al the good ideas that you al fought so vehemently, and
>setting the stage for what we do now. That might be a while, he is not even
>40 yet.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dustin Clesi <steamboat@is*.ne*>
>To: techdiver@aquanaut.com <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>Cc: wiltz44@ao*.co* <wiltz44@ao*.co*>
>Date: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 8:41 PM
>Subject: Fw: [RecoveryDivers] Rory Dickens Memorial 6/15/00 in Jax, Fl
>
>
>The first time I ever saw a scooter in an U/W
>cave,  Rory was piloting it.   I'm posting this
>to a few lists at Wes' request.  Dustin
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: WSkiles@ao*.co* <WSkiles@ao*.co*>
>To: RecoveryDivers@ca*.co* <RecoveryDivers@ca*.co*>
>Date: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 2:36 PM
>Subject: [RecoveryDivers] Rory Dickens Memorial 6/15/00 in Jax, Fl
>
>
>I've updated this with information I've been gathering on Rory. Will some
of
>you help me post this on some of the other relavant list that might help
get
>this information out to Rory's friends and supporters?
>
>Wes
>
>
>The cave diving community has lost one of its greatest innovators,
teachers,
>and friends. Roderick (Rory)  Dickens, a naval fighter pilot, school
>teacher,
>and cave diving instructors passed away this week in Jacksonville, Fl. He
>was
>67.
>
>Rory was a fixture within the Cave Diving community during the early
>seventies throughout the eighties. He made countless contributions in the
>engineering and development of cave diving equipment through its early
>years.
>He also authored many important articles and books that defined the sport
of
>cave diving. His book, The Physics and Engineering of Diving, explained the
>laws and rules of physics that control our sport to this date. Based on his
>amazing understanding of physics and engineering he predicted and drew
>diagrams of what cave diving equipment would ultimately become some thirty
>years later. He was Hogarthian long before anyone knew there was such a
>thing. The design of canister lights, wings, backplates, reels, manifolds
>and
>scooters were either conceived by our improved by his involvement in the
>sport of cave diving.
>
>Rory served the US NAVY for eight years as a jet fighter pilot who flew off
>aircraft carriers. He was stationed at Cecil Field in Jacksonville, Florida
>and reached the rank of commander. After serving two tours in the Navy,
Rory
>pursued a MA degree in physics from Purdue University. Upon completion he
>returned to Jacksonville, Florida where he became a teacher at Forrest High
>School. For the next thirty seven years Rory passed along his love for math
>and physics to thousands of appreciative students. He retired from teaching
>in 1996, but continued to teach limited classes at Forrest through 2000.
>During  his teaching career he won multiple awards including state teacher
>of
>the year and a teachers most prestigious honor the “USA Presidential Award
>for Teaching Excellence”, for his superb skills in science teaching. He was
>inducted into the Florida “Teachers Hall of Fame” in 1990.
>
>During the early and mid seventies, Rory was one of the biggest advocates
of
>diving safety and training through one of the sports most dark and
difficult
>times. Utilizing his expertise he work tirelessly to test and evaluate
early
>concepts and rules of cave diving. No matter what the situation, Rory
always
>gave freely of his time and vast knowledge on myriad subjects. As an active
>National Association for Cave Diving (NACD) instructor, he taught many cave
>divers to dive safely within Florida’s underwater caves. He was a friend
and
>mentor to many well known cave divers including Sheck Exley, Wes Skiles and
>Clark Pitcairn.
>
>A memorial service for Rory is being held in Jacksonville, Fl on Thursday,
>June 15th at Hardage/Giddings Funeral Home on 5753 Blanding Blvd. A post
>memorial gathering of Rory's diving friends, will be held at David
Cameron's
>house after the service.
>
>Please pass this notice along to anyone that might have known Rory and
might
>be interested in helping him celebrate his incredible life.
>
>People wishing to express their feelings regarding Rory Dickens passing are
>urged to send a charitable donation to:
>
>Forrest High School
>5530 Firestone Blvd.
>Jacksonville, Fl 32210
>
>Attn: Janice Lamb
>
>Note on check: Rory Dickens Scholarship Fund
>
>Wes Skiles
>(904) 454-3556
>
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