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Hell Cobber they give me a sore back. I'd bet Mike Black (you know, the
guy that doesn't dive) would consider this a Type 2 DCS hit.
Dr. John Walker
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ma*.ci*.co*>
To: Al Marvelli <ajmarve@ba*.ne*>; Paul Braunbehrens
<Bakalite@ba*.co*>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: Weights
> Weight belt for wetsuits. Weight belt fucks up the airflow in your drysuit
> and is a failure point. I hate weight belts.
>
> Jim
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> > From: Al Marvelli <ajmarve@ba*.ne*>
> > Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 03:24:40 -0400
> > To: Paul Braunbehrens <Bakalite@ba*.co*>
> > Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
> > Subject: Re: Weights
> >
> > I dont mean to flame Paul personally but I have to ask some simple
questions
> > here.
> >
> > Why is the weight belt not ideal? its cheap, easy to learn, and found
> > everywhere.
> >
> > The belt gives you a built in failure indicator< if you are paying
attnetion
> > you can feel it slip, and thats easy to correct on your own> and if its
> > under you crotch stap has a built in anti ditch safety.
> >
> > and also
> >
> > what is the facination with non ditchable weight?
> >
> > especially on a rig that is limited to no stop diving by definition??
> >
> > I can understand its significance on a deco dive, but you all do realize
> > that if your worst fears come true and you undergo a buoyant ascent ,
you
> > are merely performing skills practice?? That evey agency has blow and go
as
> > its last resort for ndl diving?
> >
> > have any of you removed your weights during a dive? what was the result?
I
> > had my belt off three times in front of the class i was helping with
tonite,
> > no problem with an al 80 with an al plate and a 1/4 suit in 12 ft of
water,
> > i had plenty of time to dump the bc and remain with my weight belt with
just
> > a little effort. Are we all just not paying attention?
> >
> > worried about buckle failure? wear two.
> >
> > We are not even going to get into the pony bottle, but fyi my
understanding
> > of hogarthian means ultra minimal as in no reserve gas, even in
overhead.
> > and of course the bottle is unnecessary for anything, you can either
blow
> > and go or you cant and if you cant you need a real redundant system, not
13
> > freaking cu ft. This w/e i was forced to dive off the bow b/c the
customers
> > used up all the rack space with their pony bottles filled with nitrox
too
> > hot for the bottom< typical, they have all been hosed and regard dir as
> > internet bs>and then i had to endure the shop owners bitching about my
> > doubles being too much gear for the dives< which they were, but i needed
> > them empty and gas costs money so i aint freaking wasting it>so i am
ready
> > for all comers on this pony bullshit.
> >
> > You dont need a pony bottle unless you are solo diving without a plan.
> >
> > Think it through people.
> >
> > Al Marvelli
> >
> > PS if those two quarry guys dont send me snail addresses ill never be
able
> > to mail them schedules and since i lost my inbox i dont havetheir e
> > addresses, so get back to me fellas.
> >
> > Paul Braunbehrens wrote:
> >
> >> OK, I went through tons of archives last night, trying to get to the
> >> bottom of this. First, let me tell you my setup. I'm diving a
> >> backplate and wings, with a drysuit, and (for now) a single tank and
> >> a pony bottle. Leaving enough air in my suit so I can still move and
> >> do a safety stop at the end of a dive, I need 17 pounds on my belt (I
> >> dive in cold water).
> >>
> >> Right now this weight is on my weight belt, which is ok but not ideal.
> >>
> >> Perusing the archives, it seems the consensus is to make a V weight
> >> for at least some of this. Let's say it will weigh about 9 Pounds.
> >> This still leaves 8 pounds. I could then either leave that on my
> >> weight belt, or I could put it in the Halcyon weight pouches. I
> >> assume that when I go to doubles I won't need most of it anymore?
> >> Also, DiveRite sells a "trim weight" that will fit between the bolts
> >> on the backplate. I was thinking of this as an option.
> >>
> >> Also, I read a lot of posts saying the canister light is 6 pounds
> >> negative (or thereabouts). Mine is 1.5 pounds negative, which means
> >> I have to account for that weight somewhere.
> >>
> >> One post I read which made a lot of sense, said that you should have
> >> about 5 or 6 pounds of ditchable weight (if any). When you ditch
> >> your weight you don't want to become so positive as to end up in
> >> lunar orbit.
> >>
> >> I would like to get as close to hogarthian as possible before moving
> >> to doubles, so any help is appreciated. I'm even moving my canister
> >> back on my harness (I had it upside down and attached to the
> >> backplate, but I find that it has a tendency to sit on the wiring
> >> connection...not good).
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
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