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The recent thread on the subject inspired me to go out and get myself =
one. The mix diving we do here in NE Scotland doesn't have the run =
times of some of the tropical or warm cave stuff, our run times are =
typically 60 to 90 minutes, but most of our diving is RIB based (that's =
Rigid Hull Inflatable to those who haven't used them). This involves =
long trips out to the dive site with drysuit on so I can spend up to 4 =
or 5 hours a day with my drysuit on. Getting in and out of the suit for =
a P in a tossing boat is a pain in the arse, I also have to stop =
hydrating an hour or so before the dive to save accidents and can't =
hydrate on deco stops. A P-valve would make things alot easier.
The thread was on the EE so I got one of those.
First try yesterday - absolute disaster, despite changing the catheter =
after the first failure. Three P's, all down the left leg. One very =
wet left leg.
Any suggestions as to how I can rig the catheter and tube assembly so =
that it doesn't slide off on the way out to the dive site. No jokes =
about the size of the catheter, it fits perfectly, in fact it is a bit =
tight.
Also, any suggestions as to where I can source the catheter's in the UK. =
I foolishly thought that they were reusable so I only got a few from =
EE.
Cheers
Jim
The diving we do here in NE Scotland=20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Fabricio Rosas Tariki=20
To: wgrogan@dc*.ne* ; dmdalton ; Aquanaut Techdiver ; Trey ; Paul =
Wright=20
Sent: 09 June 2000 19:44
Subject: Re: P-valves
Thanks for all the replies. This list is VERY valuable information =
source, even with guys like Blackmd trying so hard....=20
=20
As Paul had mentioned, my concern is to remove any substrate (aka. =
piss residues) that could support bacteria grown (as in a culture =
media), not disinfect the piss. Sorry, I didn't express myself =
correctly.
=20
Best regards,
Fabricio=20
-----Mensagem original-----
De: Paul Wright <paul@ca*.co*.uk*>
Para: wgrogan@dc*.ne* <wgrogan@dc*.ne*>; dmdalton =
<dmdalton@qu*.ne*>; Fabricio Rosas Tariki =
<frtariki@or*.co*.br*>; Aquanaut Techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Data: Sexta-feira, 9 de Junho de 2000 13:22
Assunto: Re: P-valves
I agree about the powdery residue issue but in general the solution =
need be
only fairly weak rather than saturated so that residue from =
evaporation will
be minimal, also, being easily dissolved the residue should go back =
into
solution as soon as you use the catheter again. There are drawbacks =
to many
things. As for urine being sterile and an antiseptic, it is true up =
to a
point (no pun intended) however, it is also a rich source of =
nutrients so
that bacteria grow in urine from outside contamination very quickly. =
The
ideal ecologically sound solution would be to urinate through the =
catheter
then within an hour or so rinse with fresh water, no extra =
contaminants into
the environment in that case.
It just dawned on me that this is a group of adults delighting in =
talking
about having a pee..........makes a change from football I suppose.
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua" size=3D2>The recent thread on the =
subject inspired=20
me to go out and get myself one. The mix diving we do here in NE =
Scotland=20
doesn't have the run times of some of the tropical or warm cave stuff, =
our run=20
times are typically 60 to 90 minutes, but most of our diving is RIB =
based=20
(that's Rigid Hull Inflatable to those who haven't used them). =
This=20
involves long trips out to the dive site with drysuit on so I can =
spend up=20
to 4 or 5 hours a day with my drysuit on. Getting in and out of =
the suit=20
for a P in a tossing boat is a pain in the arse, I also have to stop =
hydrating=20
an hour or so before the dive to save accidents and can't hydrate on =
deco=20
stops. A P-valve would make things alot easier.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua" size=3D2>The thread was on the EE so I =
got one of=20
those.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua" size=3D2>First try yesterday - absolute =
disaster,=20
despite changing the catheter after the first failure. Three P's, =
all down=20
the left leg. One very wet left leg.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua" size=3D2>Any suggestions as to how I =
can rig the=20
catheter and tube assembly so that it doesn't slide off on the way out =
to the=20
dive site. No jokes about the size of the catheter, it fits =
perfectly, in=20
fact it is a bit tight.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua" size=3D2>Also, any suggestions as to =
where I=20
can source the catheter's in the UK. I foolishly thought that they =
were=20
reusable so I only got a few from EE.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua" size=3D2>Cheers</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua" size=3D2>Jim</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua" size=3D2>The diving we do here in NE =
Scotland=20
</FONT></DIV>
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style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:frtariki@or*.co*.br*"=20
title=3Dfrtariki@or*.co*.br*>Fabricio Rosas Tariki</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
href=3D"mailto:wgrogan@dc*.ne*"=20
title=3Dwgrogan@dc*.ne*>wgrogan@dca.net</A> ; <A=20
href=3D"mailto:dmdalton@qu*.ne*" =
title=3Ddmdalton@qu*.ne*>dmdalton</A> ;=20
<A href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com" =
title=3Dtechdiver@aquanaut.com>Aquanaut=20
Techdiver</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:trey@ne*.co*"=20
title=3Dtrey@ne*.co*>Trey</A> ; <A =
href=3D"mailto:paul@ca*.co*.uk*"=20
title=3Dpaul@ca*.co*.uk*>Paul Wright</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 09 June 2000
19:44</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: P-valves</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for all the =
replies. This=20
list is VERY<STRONG></STRONG> valuable information source, even with =
guys like=20
Blackmd trying so hard....</FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>As Paul had =
mentioned, my concern=20
is to remove any substrate (aka. piss residues) that could support =
bacteria=20
grown (as in a culture media), not disinfect the piss. Sorry, I didn't =
express=20
myself correctly.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Best regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Fabricio</FONT> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
PADDING-LEFT: 5px">
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B>-----Mensagem =
original-----</B><BR><B>De:=20
</B>Paul Wright <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:paul@ca*.co*.uk*">paul@cartergreen.co.uk</A>><BR>=
<B>Para:=20
</B><A href=3D"mailto:wgrogan@dc*.ne*">wgrogan@dca.net</A>
<<A=20
href=3D"mailto:wgrogan@dc*.ne*">wgrogan@dca.net</A>>; dmdalton =
<<A=20
href=3D"mailto:dmdalton@qu*.ne*">dmdalton@quixnet.net</A>>; =
Fabricio=20
Rosas Tariki <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:frtariki@or*.co*.br*">frtariki@originet.com.br</A>>=
;=20
Aquanaut Techdiver <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">techdiver@aquanaut.com</A>><BR>=
<B>Data:=20
</B>Sexta-feira, 9 de Junho de 2000 13:22<BR><B>Assunto:
</B>Re:=20
P-valves<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>I agree about the powdery residue
issue =
but in=20
general the solution need be<BR>only fairly weak rather than =
saturated so=20
that residue from evaporation will<BR>be minimal, also, being easily =
dissolved the residue should go back into<BR>solution as soon as you =
use the=20
catheter again. There are drawbacks to many<BR>things. As for urine =
being=20
sterile and an antiseptic, it is true up to a<BR>point (no pun =
intended)=20
however, it is also a rich source of nutrients so<BR>that bacteria =
grow in=20
urine from outside contamination very quickly. The<BR>ideal =
ecologically=20
sound solution would be to urinate through the catheter<BR>then =
within an=20
hour or so rinse with fresh water, no extra contaminants into<BR>the =
environment in that case.<BR><BR>It just dawned on me that this is a =
group=20
of adults delighting in talking<BR>about having a pee..........makes =
a=20
change from football I =
suppose.</BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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