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From: "Fabricio Rosas Tariki" <frtariki@or*.co*.br*>
To: <wgrogan@dc*.ne*>, "dmdalton" <dmdalton@qu*.ne*>,
     "Aquanaut Techdiver" ,
     "Trey" , "Paul Wright"
Subject: Re: P-valves
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 15:44:09 -0300
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Thanks for all the replies. This list is VERY valuable information =
source, even with guys like Blackmd trying so hard....

As Paul had mentioned, my concern is to remove any substrate (aka. piss =
residues) that could support bacteria grown (as in a culture media), not =
disinfect the piss. Sorry, I didn't express myself correctly.

Best regards,
Fabricio
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    De: Paul Wright <paul@ca*.co*.uk*>
    Para: wgrogan@dc*.ne* <wgrogan@dc*.ne*>; dmdalton =
<dmdalton@qu*.ne*>; Fabricio Rosas Tariki =
<frtariki@or*.co*.br*>; Aquanaut Techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
    Data: Sexta-feira, 9 de Junho de 2000 13:22
    Assunto: Re: P-valves
   =20
   =20
    I agree about the powdery residue issue but in general the solution =
need be
    only fairly weak rather than saturated so that residue from =
evaporation will
    be minimal, also, being easily dissolved the residue should go back =
into
    solution as soon as you use the catheter again. There are drawbacks =
to many
    things. As for urine being sterile and an antiseptic, it is true up =
to a
    point (no pun intended) however, it is also a rich source of =
nutrients so
    that bacteria grow in urine from outside contamination very quickly. =
The
    ideal ecologically sound solution would be to urinate through the =
catheter
    then within an hour or so rinse with fresh water, no extra =
contaminants into
    the environment in that case.
   =20
    It just dawned on me that this is a group of adults delighting in =
talking
    about having a pee..........makes a change from football I suppose.

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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for all the =
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is VERY<STRONG></STRONG> valuable information source, even with guys =
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Blackmd trying so hard....</FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial size=3D2>As Paul had mentioned, =
my concern is=20
to remove any substrate (aka. piss residues) that could support bacteria =
grown=20
(as in a culture media), not disinfect the piss. Sorry, I didn't express =
myself=20
correctly.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Best regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Fabricio</FONT> </DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B>-----Mensagem =
original-----</B><BR><B>De:=20
    </B>Paul Wright <<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:paul@ca*.co*.uk*">paul@cartergreen.co.uk</A>><BR>=
<B>Para:=20
    </B><A href=3D"mailto:wgrogan@dc*.ne*">wgrogan@dca.net</A>
<<A=20
    href=3D"mailto:wgrogan@dc*.ne*">wgrogan@dca.net</A>>; dmdalton =
<<A=20
    href=3D"mailto:dmdalton@qu*.ne*">dmdalton@quixnet.net</A>>; =
Fabricio=20
    Rosas Tariki <<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:frtariki@or*.co*.br*">frtariki@originet.com.br</A>>=
;=20
    Aquanaut Techdiver <<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">techdiver@aquanaut.com</A>><BR>=
<B>Data:=20
    </B>Sexta-feira, 9 de Junho de 2000 13:22<BR><B>Assunto:
</B>Re:=20
    P-valves<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>I agree about the powdery residue
issue =
but in=20
    general the solution need be<BR>only fairly weak rather than =
saturated so=20
    that residue from evaporation will<BR>be minimal, also, being easily =

    dissolved the residue should go back into<BR>solution as soon as you =
use the=20
    catheter again. There are drawbacks to many<BR>things. As for urine =
being=20
    sterile and an antiseptic, it is true up to a<BR>point (no pun =
intended)=20
    however, it is also a rich source of nutrients so<BR>that bacteria =
grow in=20
    urine from outside contamination very quickly. The<BR>ideal =
ecologically=20
    sound solution would be to urinate through the catheter<BR>then =
within an=20
    hour or so rinse with fresh water, no extra contaminants into<BR>the =

    environment in that case.<BR><BR>It just dawned on me that this is a =
group=20
    of adults delighting in talking<BR>about having a pee..........makes =
a=20
    change from football I suppose.</BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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