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Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 20:59:09 -0700
To: Christian Gerzner <christiang@pi*.co*.au*>,
     "techdiver@aquanaut.com"
From: Scott Hunsucker <swhac@pc*.gu*.ne*>
Subject: Re: HEADACHES WHILE DIVING

>prevent this I take 2-3 Ibuprofen before dives and I no
>longer have this problem.
>
>You're kidding, right? Well, actually it appears not.

Most would hope that you would be the one that is kidding.


>Now I have absolutely no idea what "Ibuprofen" might be ... but you use
>this stuff because you tend to get headaches? Whilst diving? Really?

Ibuprofen is also known as Motrin, Advil, etc.  It is used for pain relief 
in 200mg tablets and prescribed in 800/1200mg strength.  IT IS part of most 
of our daily dive rituals for its pain relieving effect, it reduction of 
inflammation, and for some *possible* benefits to combating free 
radicals.  800mg every 4 hrs during the long dives is standard, as is 800mg 
pre dive on "normal" dives.  Some of us also take it in solution for use 
during deco since it is hard to take PO meds until one reaches the 
habitat.  Aspirin is also used for its anticoagulant effect.

>Have you established just why you might  (regularly, it seems) have
>these headaches? As in cause and effect? From the tone of your post, I
>suggest, NOT.

Headaches from diving can be cause by many factors ranging from dehydration 
to CO2 retention (poor regulator performance, work load, poor breathing 
habits, etc).

>At a pretty rough guess may I suggest that
> >were caused by high exhertion (current, work, etc.).  I could feel them
>coming on during the dive>
>might (_might_) be a pretty good clue as to the cause being hypercapnia?
>
>Look it up!

At least you are on the right path here.  However, I know of no effect that 
Ibuprofen would have on CO2 retention, this would suggest that his pain is 
caused by something other than CO2.  I did say suggest, I did not offer any 
sort of diagnosis, there are too many unknown variables.

>And WAKE UP. Taking drugs, ANY drug, (regardless of what "Ibuprofen" might
>be) is NOT a brilliant way, a panacea, to advance your diving career
>without knowing the cause and effect.

You appear to be the one that did not know what the medicine was, perhaps 
he understands it completely.  Maybe he has not put all of the pieces 
together, but could be on the right track and has found a solution that works.

>  Actually it's pretty bloody stupid
>in the extreme.

While the comment might apply, I think using it for one of the most common 
OTC pain relievers out there is "extreme."  However, since you did not know 
and portions of you post were attempting to offer helpful advice, it is a 
moot point.
Scott Hunsucker


>Christian

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