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From: "Shimell, David (shimell)" <shimell@se*.co*>
To: Simon L Hartley <shartley@sc*.ed*.au*>, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: RE: Single tank reg question (was RE: 2nd stages)
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 09:36:01 -0700
Simon

>One thing that wasn't covered (because this really only matters to a rec
>diver (single tank) like me), how would an Apeks US-4 handle supplying two
>second stages at depth (with high air consumption).  In a DIR tech setup
>there is only one second stage per post (often working at greater depths
>obviously).  I'm sure a couple of divers in a stressful situation could
>suck a lot of air in 20-30 metres (maybe more than a single experienced
>diver a lot deeper, even working hard).  Any experience?

The Apeks regulators are rated to 50+ meters - as are most these days - and
test well against the competition.  However we can't be talking of a huge
depth if we're considering a single cylinder dive.  Also, Helium in the gas
makes breathing easier and more importantly gives  the divers a better chance
of surviving and probably avoiding the issue altogether.

Some time back, Diver Magazine in the UK did a test at 50m breathing air from
4 second stages attached to a single first stage in order to assess
performance. In general, most regulators performed OK.  I don't have a copy
of this issue anymore.  Personally, I would not be concerned but if I was I'd
check it out underwater with my buddy.

David Shimell
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registered in England and Wales under company number: 1999363, registered
office as above

-----Original Message-----
From:	Simon L Hartley [SMTP:shartley@sc*.ed*.au*]
Sent:	Friday, June 02, 2000 9:16 AM
To:	techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject:	Single tank reg question (was RE: 2nd stages)

Hi all,

I've been following the Apeks threads with interest.  Posted a question
last week but by the time I got the "Message approval" response the thread
had moved on and most of my questions answered.  

One thing that wasn't covered (because this really only matters to a rec
diver (single tank) like me), how would an Apeks US-4 handle supplying two
second stages at depth (with high air consumption).  In a DIR tech setup
there is only one second stage per post (often working at greater depths
obviously).  I'm sure a couple of divers in a stressful situation could
suck a lot of air in 20-30 metres (maybe more than a single experienced
diver a lot deeper, even working hard).  Any experience?

I've looked at going over to a diaphragm style reg for a while.  My current
piston first stage (MK10) is quite high maintenance (three services per
year) with the sort of diving I do.  The Apeks appeals because of the
simpler design (other firsts I've looked at look quite fiddly (not at all
easy to service and lot to go wrong)).  

H/Y valves are undesirable.  I like to keep things as simple as possible.

At 20:07 1/06/2000 -0500, s_lindblom@co*.co* (Steve Lindblom) wrote:
>separate effort adjustments, which allow detuning. Cheaper ones like the SP
>190/380 aren't balanced, are less sensitive, and can also be detuned even
>further if desired. It's the ones in the middle that give the trouble.

So the old R190's are unbalanced.  Wondered what everyone was complaining
about ("free flows, what free flows?")  :-)

Simon

Simon L Hartley
RSM Unit Web Administrator\First Year Course Coordinator
Associate Lecturer
School of Resource Science and Management
Southern Cross University
P.O. Box 157
Lismore NSW, Australia 2480
Ph: (02) 66203251 or (61 66) 203 251
Fax:(02) 66212669
E-mail: shartley@sc*.ed*.au*

http://www.scu.edu.au/staff_pages/shartley/index.html

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