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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 21:10:20 +0900
To: trey@ne*.co*
From: Jeffrey Swann <swanncruz@ta*.ne*.au*>
Subject: Re: DIR - v - BLACK. MD?
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
George,
You break us up, all over the world.
JS the Darwinian.
At 05:34 17/05/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Paul, the guy is an eye doctor whose "diving knowledge" is a compendium
>of old wives tales, outdated heresay, long ago proven wrong silliness,
>and then his own concoction of dangerous stupidity which goes beyond the
>pale and draws the fire of anyone who has any knowledge of the game,
>hence the attention he draws when demonstrating this. He then is a
>hypocrite of Brobdinagian proportions, and to use a term his oft quoted
>mentor, Brett Gilliam , used in one of his magazine articles, is "down
>to seeds and stems" in his efforts to battle with those of us who walk
>the walk.
>
>To use my won terms, this guy is a pussy who has his little panties in a
>wad because he gets no respect from us and gets treated like a
>coackroach when he scurries out in the dark to do his dirty business,
>and that is how it should be. Fortunately, he is willing to repeatedly
>be a power of example that all can spot quite easily. Let's just hope he
>has no influence over anyone with his lame ideas , and let's hope he
>does not get anyone killed with them.
>
>
>Paul Johnston wrote:
>> 
>> Mike,
>> 
>> WOW  - did I touch a nerve or something or are we just in a sensitive mood?
>> 
>> Your reply interests me:
>> 
>> As for posting my own introduction to the list I am afraid my credentials
>> pale into insignificance in the light of your apparent vast medical and
>> diving knowledge, my diving skills are simply recreationally based but
>> hoping to improve and grow into more technical wreck type stuff. As for my
>> medical skill, I have a friend who is a doctor - "Does that count".
>> 
>> As for George - if this is George Irvine you are talking about, I am sorry,
>> I don't know him personally at all - BUT - as we say in my home country of
>> Ireland, "The proof of the pudding is in the eating". From what I have read
>> and heard from a variety of sources George seems to be a person who has not
>> only eaten the cake but baked it as well, in fact he may have even
>> introduced some new ingredients.
>> 
>> Have a safe dive this evening, you have satisfied my curiosity and my
>> opinion of you remains unchanged.
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Michael J. Black [mailto:mjblackmd@ya*.co*]
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 13:07
>> To: Paul Johnston
>> Subject: Re: DIR - v - BLACK. MD?
>> 
>> Paul,
>> 
>> Are you unable to find my introduction in the archives?  I'll have
>> to look for yours, sometime.  As you will post this yourself, I won't
>> bother.  You see Paul, once upon a time, George liked me and wanted
>> to see an M.D. on the techdiver list (I may still have his post
>> filed away), but that all changed when I started posting things he
>> didn't like hearing, especially from a physician with diving medical
>> knowledge.  Things like adaptation to nitrogen narcosis, or dysbaric
>> osteonecrosis in old knee injuries (how's that knee George?), or
>> my corrections to the know-it-alls who emphatically stated Lasik
>> eye surgery doesn't require a knife, or anabolic steroids are used
>> to treat lung injuries.  It became painfully obvious that too many
>> regulars on techdiver, including George himself, were F.O.S.  It was
>> obvious to me as a physician, but also as a diver, and that just
>> didn't sit well with the DIR gods, so I was cast out and told
>> to S.T.F.U.  I really don't mind being a cast-out, as I feel I'm in
>> rather distinguished company.  I even get occasional praises from
>> long-departed whipping boys whose names I won't mention.  And lastly,
>> as I've said before, I've gotta admit that kicking this hornet's
>> nest can be a scream, watching the DIR fools writhe in their own
>> idiocy.  As for my diving credentials, they've been posted too, but
>> let's just say I dive alot (over twenty years, and 1000 logged dives
>> in the last ten) and in fact, I'm going diving tonight after work.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> MJB
>> 
>> --- Paul Johnston <Johnston@tw*.ca*> wrote:
>> > Mike,
>> >
>> > I am relatively new to the list and basically have been sitting back and
>> > watching as the crescendo of e-mails erupts around you on a constant
>> basis.
>> > Why is this?
>> >
>> > Maybe for the sake of those of us who don't 'know' you, you could give us
>> a
>> > list of your diving credentials so to speak.
>> >
>> > All of us wait with bated breath in anticipation of your reply.
>> >
>> > Paul Johnston.
>> >
>> 
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