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From: "Perry Armor" <perry@di*.co*>
To: "Paul Johnston" <Johnston@tw*.ca*>,
     "'Michael J. Black'"
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: RE: DIR - v - BLACK. MD?
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 17:14:51 -0700
Hmmm...

"...but that all changed when I started posting things he
didn't like hearing, especially from a physician with diving medical
knowledge."

  I wonder which physician with diving medical knowledge he's referring to.
I wasn't aware Black knew anyone with diving medical knowledge.  Maybe Black
has a friend who's a doctor, too.

	Perry


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Johnston [mailto:Johnston@tw*.ca*]
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 2:32 PM
To: 'Michael J. Black'
Cc: 'techdiver@aquanaut.com'
Subject: RE: DIR - v - BLACK. MD?


Mike,

WOW  - did I touch a nerve or something or are we just in a sensitive mood?

Your reply interests me:

As for posting my own introduction to the list I am afraid my credentials
pale into insignificance in the light of your apparent vast medical and
diving knowledge, my diving skills are simply recreationally based but
hoping to improve and grow into more technical wreck type stuff. As for my
medical skill, I have a friend who is a doctor - "Does that count".

As for George - if this is George Irvine you are talking about, I am sorry,
I don't know him personally at all - BUT - as we say in my home country of
Ireland, "The proof of the pudding is in the eating". From what I have read
and heard from a variety of sources George seems to be a person who has not
only eaten the cake but baked it as well, in fact he may have even
introduced some new ingredients.

Have a safe dive this evening, you have satisfied my curiosity and my
opinion of you remains unchanged.

Paul



-----Original Message-----
From: Michael J. Black [mailto:mjblackmd@ya*.co*]
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 13:07
To: Paul Johnston
Subject: Re: DIR - v - BLACK. MD?


Paul,

Are you unable to find my introduction in the archives?  I'll have
to look for yours, sometime.  As you will post this yourself, I won't
bother.  You see Paul, once upon a time, George liked me and wanted
to see an M.D. on the techdiver list (I may still have his post
filed away), but that all changed when I started posting things he
didn't like hearing, especially from a physician with diving medical
knowledge.  Things like adaptation to nitrogen narcosis, or dysbaric
osteonecrosis in old knee injuries (how's that knee George?), or
my corrections to the know-it-alls who emphatically stated Lasik
eye surgery doesn't require a knife, or anabolic steroids are used
to treat lung injuries.  It became painfully obvious that too many
regulars on techdiver, including George himself, were F.O.S.  It was
obvious to me as a physician, but also as a diver, and that just
didn't sit well with the DIR gods, so I was cast out and told
to S.T.F.U.  I really don't mind being a cast-out, as I feel I'm in
rather distinguished company.  I even get occasional praises from
long-departed whipping boys whose names I won't mention.  And lastly,
as I've said before, I've gotta admit that kicking this hornet's
nest can be a scream, watching the DIR fools writhe in their own
idiocy.  As for my diving credentials, they've been posted too, but
let's just say I dive alot (over twenty years, and 1000 logged dives
in the last ten) and in fact, I'm going diving tonight after work.

Regards,
MJB

--- Paul Johnston <Johnston@tw*.ca*> wrote:
> Mike,
>
> I am relatively new to the list and basically have been sitting back and
> watching as the crescendo of e-mails erupts around you on a constant
basis.
> Why is this?
>
> Maybe for the sake of those of us who don't 'know' you, you could give us
a
> list of your diving credentials so to speak.
>
> All of us wait with bated breath in anticipation of your reply.
>
> Paul Johnston.
>


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