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Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 00:08:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: john.r.strohm@BI*.co*
Subject: Re: Don't deal with John Allen/ An opposing view!
To: WatsonCJW@ao*.co*
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Chris, I have only dealt with John Allen once, because it has only happened
once that he had an item that I wanted.  He delivered the goods, as
advertised, on time, in mint condition, no problem at all.  I would not
hesitate for a moment to do business with him again.

Priority Mail is the large-object equivalent to First Class Mail.  Next
time you order something expensive, specify Registered Mail and pay the
extra fees.  It is a royal pain in the posterior for the Post Awful, which
is why they don't like to do it, and why the charge the extra fees.

--John R. Strohm

>From: <WatsonCJW@ao*.co*>
>To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 9:13 AM
>Subject: Don't deal with John Allen
>
>
>> I advise everyone reading this message not to do business with John Allen
>> (a.k.a. "Trader" John, "Big" John, JDA000@ao*.co*, John's SCUBA
>Equipment,
>> Northeast Scuba Supply of Norristown PA), unless you are in his store and
>can
>> touch what he sells.  Specifically, do NOT order equipment via phone or
>> website.
>>
>> I placed a small order with Northeast SCUBA on 5 April 00, and haven't
>> received it yet.  My order was made over the phone, and I spoke with John
>> Allen personally.  I specified the shipping method (US Priority Mail;
>> required due to my address), and he assured me it was no problem; he did
>it
>> all the time. He charged my credit card that day and it posed to my
>account
>> 48 hours later.
>>
>> After almost three weeks I began to get nervous.  Between then and now
>I've
>> sent four emails to John Allen.  He replied to the first with a one-line
>> reply: "It was sent."  The second he ignored.  For the third he wrote me
>back
>> that he was "checking" and would get back with me that day.  That was six
>> days ago and I haven't heard anything.  Yesterday I sent my last message,
>> which he received and again made no reply.
>>
>> I've called my credit card company and disputed his charge, and I hope it
>> causes him as much irritation as he's caused me.  To me, this is piss
>poor
>in
>> general, and borders on fraud in particular.  He took money without
>providing
>> a product as agreed and added insult to injury by not even replying to my
>> attempts to solve the problem.  My order wasn't big, but we all know how
>> frustrating this kind of situation can be.  Also, if he doesn't work with
>you
>> on a typical order, why would you ever make a big one? (rhetorical)
>>
>> For those who may be lurking as I was and contemplating buying gear from
>a
>> distance, here's my summary:
>>
>> Joe McGrath / Highland Mills: Absolutely fantastic from start to finish.
>>
>> Dive Rite:  Bent over backwards. (yeah, yeah, I know, but this isn't a
>> product endorsement, it's about their willingness to help a customer)
>>
>> Lloyd Bailey:  Excellent, polite and prompt in every way.  My
>recommendation
>> from now on.
>>
>> Mike Strong / Pro Ski and SCUBA, KS:  Great guy, fine deal (tanks)
>>
>> Leisure Pro, NY:  excellent service and prices for gray market
>recreational
>> stuff.
>>
>> Halcyon:  a bit slow but worth the wait.  (Wish I'd bought their stuff
>> sooner!)
>>
>> Stingray Divers, NY:  average service, but fantastic price and delivered
>> immediately.
>>
>> I don't claim these descriptions are definitive, just my personal
>experience.
>>
>>
>> I have been lurking this list extensively for several months, and I've
>> learned a great deal.  Thank you to all the frequent contributors for
>your
>> efforts to share your knowledge and skills; I think I'm a better diver
>for
>> your efforts.  Based on what I've learned, I've been doing what many
>others
>> have done and migrated in fits and starts toward the equipment and
>methods
>> recommended here.  I wouldn't use the term "DIR" to describe myself
>(yet),
>> but I'm trying to learn and make progress.  I do think I'm better and
>safer
>> now than before.  Maybe I can help someone to prevent the mistake I did:
>> DON'T deal with John Allen / Northeast SCUBA Supply.
>>
>> Chris Watson
>> PSC 813, Box 157
>> FPO AE  09620
>> (Naples, Italy)
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