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Oh yeah, I forgot my most favorite "John" story. John did me a really = BIG favor last year. I bought a used D=E9cor scooter from a woman I didn't = know in Ohio. Since I didn't know her and she didn't know me I asked if = John would stand as a reputable middleman. She checked our John with her = cave friends and they all told her he's a stand up guy. She shipped the = scooter to him, john unpacked it, checked it out and reported to me everything = was OK and exactly as I would expect. I went and picked up the scooter and = John verified my payment to her and dropped the money order in the mail. = All for free! I'm forever grateful to John for this. He's the best! Art. -----Original Message----- From: dmdalton [SMTP:dmdalton@qu*.ne*] Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 7:32 PM To: techdiver@aquanaut.com; WatsonCJW@ao*.co* Cc: John's Scuba Subject: Re: Don't deal with John Allen/ An opposing view! Chris, Sorry, but I don't share your feelings. I have been dealing with John Allen since he had a shop in his garage behind his house in 97, in fact that was the only shop of his that I have been in. He has since moved into a conventional shop several years ago and probably handles more tech gear than any other shop on either coast. With the exception of two PST 95 cu ft tanks that I drove up to his original shop to pick up, all of my purchases from him have been over the phone, and they have been considerable during the past 3 years. I have purchased new, used and "new but sitting in the warehouse so long I got a great deal on it" items. In addition, he has hunted down items that were so small they weren't worth his time or effort (or the effort of any of my local shops in the Washington DC area). He has shipped items to me, brought them to the Tom's River Flea Market, and to Dutch Springs and Willow Springs so I could pick them up when I was making a dive and save on shipping and driving. As far as community support, he runs FREE fun dives at local quarries and NJ beaches that anyone can go to who would like to dive but doesn't have a buddy, and has even brought his shops fleet of DPV and let the group use them all day at no charge! I am sure there are other shops that do similar things but I haven't run across them yet. I'd give him 6 stars on a 5 star scale! I am sure he will work things out to your satisfaction. Dave Dalton ----- Original Message ----- From: <WatsonCJW@ao*.co*> To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 9:13 AM Subject: Don't deal with John Allen > I advise everyone reading this message not to do business with John Allen > (a.k.a. "Trader" John, "Big" John, JDA000@ao*.co*, John's SCUBA Equipment, > Northeast Scuba Supply of Norristown PA), unless you are in his store and can > touch what he sells. Specifically, do NOT order equipment via phone or > website. > > I placed a small order with Northeast SCUBA on 5 April 00, and haven't > received it yet. My order was made over the phone, and I spoke with John > Allen personally. I specified the shipping method (US Priority Mail; > required due to my address), and he assured me it was no problem; he did it > all the time. He charged my credit card that day and it posed to my account > 48 hours later. > > After almost three weeks I began to get nervous. Between then and now I've > sent four emails to John Allen. He replied to the first with a one-line > reply: "It was sent." The second he ignored. For the third he wrote me back > that he was "checking" and would get back with me that day. That was six > days ago and I haven't heard anything. Yesterday I sent my last message, > which he received and again made no reply. > > I've called my credit card company and disputed his charge, and I hope it > causes him as much irritation as he's caused me. To me, this is piss poor in > general, and borders on fraud in particular. He took money without providing > a product as agreed and added insult to injury by not even replying to my > attempts to solve the problem. My order wasn't big, but we all know how > frustrating this kind of situation can be. Also, if he doesn't work with you > on a typical order, why would you ever make a big one? (rhetorical) > > For those who may be lurking as I was and contemplating buying gear from a > distance, here's my summary: > > Joe McGrath / Highland Mills: Absolutely fantastic from start to finish. > > Dive Rite: Bent over backwards. (yeah, yeah, I know, but this isn't a > product endorsement, it's about their willingness to help a customer) > > Lloyd Bailey: Excellent, polite and prompt in every way. My recommendation > from now on. > > Mike Strong / Pro Ski and SCUBA, KS: Great guy, fine deal (tanks) > > Leisure Pro, NY: excellent service and prices for gray market recreational > stuff. > > Halcyon: a bit slow but worth the wait. (Wish I'd bought their stuff > sooner!) > > Stingray Divers, NY: average service, but fantastic price and delivered > immediately. > > I don't claim these descriptions are definitive, just my personal experience. > > > I have been lurking this list extensively for several months, and I've > learned a great deal. Thank you to all the frequent contributors for your > efforts to share your knowledge and skills; I think I'm a better diver for > your efforts. Based on what I've learned, I've been doing what many others > have done and migrated in fits and starts toward the equipment and methods > recommended here. I wouldn't use the term "DIR" to describe myself (yet), > but I'm trying to learn and make progress. I do think I'm better and safer > now than before. Maybe I can help someone to prevent the mistake I did: > DON'T deal with John Allen / Northeast SCUBA Supply. > > Chris Watson > PSC 813, Box 157 > FPO AE 09620 > (Naples, Italy) > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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