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From: "John McMillan." <mcmillan_knit@on*.ne*.au*>
To: <WatsonCJW@ao*.co*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Don't deal with John Allen
Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 07:40:55 +1000
Chis,
I don't know what happened here but I have delt with John a number of
occasions from Australia and found his service and reliability to be first
class. I have also found his pricing to be very competitive. Maybe the
culprit may not be John's organisation but the carrier of your choice.

Hoo Roo
Johnny Mack
Down Under.


----- Original Message -----
From: <WatsonCJW@ao*.co*>
To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 11:13 PM
Subject: Don't deal with John Allen


> I advise everyone reading this message not to do business with John Allen
> (a.k.a. "Trader" John, "Big" John, JDA000@ao*.co*, John's SCUBA Equipment,
> Northeast Scuba Supply of Norristown PA), unless you are in his store and
can
> touch what he sells.  Specifically, do NOT order equipment via phone or
> website.
>
> I placed a small order with Northeast SCUBA on 5 April 00, and haven't
> received it yet.  My order was made over the phone, and I spoke with John
> Allen personally.  I specified the shipping method (US Priority Mail;
> required due to my address), and he assured me it was no problem; he did
it
> all the time. He charged my credit card that day and it posed to my
account
> 48 hours later.
>
> After almost three weeks I began to get nervous.  Between then and now
I've
> sent four emails to John Allen.  He replied to the first with a one-line
> reply: "It was sent."  The second he ignored.  For the third he wrote me
back
> that he was "checking" and would get back with me that day.  That was six
> days ago and I haven't heard anything.  Yesterday I sent my last message,
> which he received and again made no reply.
>
> I've called my credit card company and disputed his charge, and I hope it
> causes him as much irritation as he's caused me.  To me, this is piss poor
in
> general, and borders on fraud in particular.  He took money without
providing
> a product as agreed and added insult to injury by not even replying to my
> attempts to solve the problem.  My order wasn't big, but we all know how
> frustrating this kind of situation can be.  Also, if he doesn't work with
you
> on a typical order, why would you ever make a big one? (rhetorical)
>
> For those who may be lurking as I was and contemplating buying gear from a
> distance, here's my summary:
>
> Joe McGrath / Highland Mills: Absolutely fantastic from start to finish.
>
> Dive Rite:  Bent over backwards. (yeah, yeah, I know, but this isn't a
> product endorsement, it's about their willingness to help a customer)
>
> Lloyd Bailey:  Excellent, polite and prompt in every way.  My
recommendation
> from now on.
>
> Mike Strong / Pro Ski and SCUBA, KS:  Great guy, fine deal (tanks)
>
> Leisure Pro, NY:  excellent service and prices for gray market
recreational
> stuff.
>
> Halcyon:  a bit slow but worth the wait.  (Wish I'd bought their stuff
> sooner!)
>
> Stingray Divers, NY:  average service, but fantastic price and delivered
> immediately.
>
> I don't claim these descriptions are definitive, just my personal
experience.
>
>
> I have been lurking this list extensively for several months, and I've
> learned a great deal.  Thank you to all the frequent contributors for your
> efforts to share your knowledge and skills; I think I'm a better diver for
> your efforts.  Based on what I've learned, I've been doing what many
others
> have done and migrated in fits and starts toward the equipment and methods
> recommended here.  I wouldn't use the term "DIR" to describe myself (yet),
> but I'm trying to learn and make progress.  I do think I'm better and
safer
> now than before.  Maybe I can help someone to prevent the mistake I did:
> DON'T deal with John Allen / Northeast SCUBA Supply.
>
> Chris Watson
> PSC 813, Box 157
> FPO AE  09620
> (Naples, Italy)
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