When I was a kid, I'd swim in the ocean until I was half frozen. I didn't mind (in fact, I hardly noticed), but Mom would always make me get out when she noticed my lips turning blue from the cold (I was then given a shot of whisky to "warm me up", but that's another story :-). Could the blue nose be a related phenomenon? --tab -- Tracey Baker tab@pa*.co* "I don't think safety is the main issue here... You'd be stupid not to be safe." - J.Comly
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