Heheheheh! The "Greenburg Solution", careful now, Kevin, I can tell Art's a little touchy on this topic. He must have garage full of 46's. I like the 6 13's idea, you could put HP hoses between them and wear them around your gut on a belt. You would look like the "mad bomber" or something out of a old James Bond film. Hey, they've officially released the doubles spare air in a nitrox version, maybe you can daisy-chain a few of those together... Jim ------------------------------------------------------------------- Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/ > From: "Kevin Connell" <kevin@nw*.co*> > Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 19:03:45 -0700 > To: Jeff Disler <pdisler@io*.ne*>, Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>, Art > Greenberg <artg@ec*.ne*> > Cc: Cam Banks <cam@ca*.co*>, Techdiver Mailing List > <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > Subject: Re: Cave doubles > > Jim - this is getting pretty funny. I own a set of 46's and I certainly > don't have any desire to band them together because I am too much of a > pussy to carry 104's or I think they are a better solution than a single 80. > > Better than "cave doubles", how about "The Greenberg Solution" > > Actually, what I'm planning on doing is duct-taping 6 AL13's together in a > "star" configuration for full redundancy for reef diving in the tropics. > > At 04:07 PM 4/10/2000 -0400, Jim Cobb wrote: >> Jeff- >> >> As I told Maggie and Art, if you have the money go ahead and get "OMS 46 >> doubles", I just think that your money is better spent on a set of 95's or >> 104's which would wind up costing about the same and offer much more >> utility. >> >> Every time I get passionate arguments for gear like this, I tend to suspect >> it's because A) they actually own the piece of sh, er, equipment in question >> and don't want to look like a knucklehead on the next dive trip, or B) they >> are about to unload the piece of sh, er, equipment in question on the >> unsuspecting masses and don't want me to ruin the market. >> >> In this case the bottom has fallen out of the OMS steel 46 stage market due >> to their close proximity to several dead divers over the years and dozens of >> techies and marketers are desperately trying to come up with ways to get rid >> of these ridiculously expensive crappy POS. And the poor suckers thought >> they found salvation in the new "OMS 46 doubles" market. >> >> PULL! BANG! Dusted that sucker! >> >> But, Jeff, I will give you that if you are belly-crawling through caves and >> need a low-profile air source, then "OMS 46 Doubles" are ideal for that >> particular, narrow, targeted, unique, singular situation... Let's call them >> "cave doubles." >> >> Best Regards- >> >> Jim >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/ >> >>> From: Jeff Disler <pdisler@io*.ne*> >>> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:55:34 -0500 >>> To: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>, Art Greenberg >> <artg@ec*.ne*>, Jim >>> Cobb <cobber@ma*.ci*.co*> >>> Cc: Cam Banks <cam@ca*.co*>, Techdiver Mailing List >>> <techdiver@aquanaut.com> >>> Subject: Re: Dual OMS 45's >>> >>> C'mon Jim, >>> >>> Don't close your mind to the possibility that small doubles, (OMS 46's) >>> might be a better set up than a single eighty for simple dives. Probably >>> most (on this list anyway) are already using the same backplate and wings >>> they use for their large doubles, to dive an Al 80 with an single tank >>> adaptor. So for those who already have these tanks ( I already use them for >>> sump diving because, IMO, they are the best small tank for sump diving) why >>> not just them for as small doubles as well. They really don't weigh anymore >>> than an solo 80, except for the additional first stage. They don't go way >>> positive when near empty. They are easy to swim up from depth without the >>> aid of inflation. They fit closer to the back than an aluminim 80. I don't >>> think they have as much drag, certainly not any more than an alum 80. These >>> are just a few things about the tanks I like. >>> >>> Things that I think we should all like, at least tolerate, or could just >>> get use to about the 46 doubles: >>> Hell you're covered if you blow a neck O-ring, if a reg fails (first or >>> second), if your buddy needs a bit more gas when his system goes boom >>> catastrophically or just plain ol' fails , and You simply have more gas, >>> which, too much of never hurts. >>> >>> I agree, probably most people don't need to go out and spend the bucks on >>> dual 46's. But I'll bet if you actually dived my dual 46's you'd prefer >>> them over a single eighty. If you did not like them better, I'd be suprised >>> and would like to hear the reasons why. >>> >>> I believe in using the right gear for the task at hand as well. If I need >>> my big doubles for the dive I'm doing, I use them. If I need side mounted >>> 95's for a sump dive, I use them. What ever it takes for the dive, thats >>> what I'll choose. I'm certain the few rec dives I do could be done with an >>> alum 80, but I choose to have the redundancy for all my dives. Is that so >>> wrong? <g> >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> By they way, I've heard a lot of folks don't like these tanks because they >>> are to heavy. Anyone who does not like their oms 46 and wants to sell, for >>> a low price, let me know how much. >>> >>> >>> "SILT HAPPENS"JD JEFF DISLER >>> SAFE CAVING NSS 26000 >>> >> >> >> -- >> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > ---------------------------------- > Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*> > > NW Labor Systems, Inc > http://www.nwls.com > > Pluralitas non est ponenda sine neccesitate. > (plurality should not be posited without > necessity - Occam's razor) > > > ---------------------------------- > > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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