Well, I don't think that's an entirely fair assessment, as I started this
thread and I don't own a pair or want to sell any.  Seems like a lively
thread though!

I already have a pair of Faber 80's w/manifold and a Faber 95 w/H valve.
Faber 80's, for my in-shape, 160lb bod, will provide a long bottom time.
Dual 95's would probably be overkill.  Basically, like I said, I'm looking
for doubles redundancy for rec diving.  However, this time around, I'm going
to do it with double 72's, since  I got those for free (trade).  I probably
will eventually aquire double 46's too, since I haven't seen anything to
convince me otherwise.  Biggest hassle is getting them at the right price
and getting custom bands so you can use a real manifold.

Cam


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Cobb" <cobber@ma*.ci*.co*>
To: "Jeff Disler" <pdisler@io*.ne*>; "Jim Cobb" <cobber@ci*.co*>;
"Art Greenberg" <artg@ec*.ne*>
Cc: "Cam Banks" <cam@ca*.co*>; "Techdiver Mailing List"
<techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: Cave doubles


> Jeff-
>
> As I told Maggie and Art, if you have the money go ahead and get "OMS 46
> doubles", I just think that your money is better spent on a set of 95's or
> 104's which would wind up costing about the same and offer much more
> utility.
>
> Every time I get passionate arguments for gear like this, I tend to
suspect
> it's because A) they actually own the piece of sh, er, equipment in
question
> and don't want to look like a knucklehead on the next dive trip, or B)
they
> are about to unload the piece of sh, er, equipment in question on the
> unsuspecting masses and don't want me to ruin the market.
>
> In this case the bottom has fallen out of the OMS steel 46 stage market
due
> to their close proximity to several dead divers over the years and dozens
of
> techies and marketers are desperately trying to come up with ways to get
rid
> of these ridiculously expensive crappy POS. And the poor suckers thought
> they found salvation in the new "OMS 46 doubles" market.
>
> PULL! BANG! Dusted that sucker!
>
> But, Jeff, I will give you that if you are belly-crawling through caves
and
> need a low-profile air source, then "OMS 46 Doubles" are ideal for that
> particular, narrow, targeted, unique, singular situation... Let's call
them
> "cave doubles."
>
> Best Regards-
>
>    Jim
>
>  -------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
> > From: Jeff Disler <pdisler@io*.ne*>
> > Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:55:34 -0500
> > To: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>, Art Greenberg <artg@ec*.ne*>,
Jim
> > Cobb <cobber@ma*.ci*.co*>
> > Cc: Cam Banks <cam@ca*.co*>, Techdiver Mailing List
> > <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > Subject: Re: Dual OMS 45's
> >
> > C'mon Jim,
> >
> > Don't close your mind to the possibility that small doubles, (OMS 46's)
> > might be a better set up than a single eighty for simple dives. Probably
> > most (on this list anyway) are already using the same backplate and
wings
> > they use for their large doubles, to dive an Al 80 with an single tank
> > adaptor. So for those who already have these tanks ( I already use them
for
> > sump diving because, IMO, they are the best small tank for sump diving)
why
> > not just them for as small doubles as well. They really don't weigh
anymore
> > than an solo 80, except for the additional first stage. They don't go
way
> > positive when near empty. They are easy to swim up from depth without
the
> > aid of inflation. They fit closer to the back than an aluminim 80. I
don't
> > think they have as much drag, certainly not any more than an alum 80.
These
> > are just a few things about the tanks I like.
> >
> > Things that I think we should all like, at least tolerate, or could just
> > get use to about the 46 doubles:
> > Hell you're covered if you blow a neck O-ring, if a reg fails (first or
> > second), if your buddy needs a bit more gas when his system goes boom
> > catastrophically or just plain ol' fails , and You simply have more gas,
> > which, too much of never hurts.
> >
> > I agree, probably most people don't need to go out and spend the bucks
on
> > dual 46's. But I'll bet if you actually dived my dual 46's you'd prefer
> > them over a single eighty. If you did not like them better, I'd be
suprised
> > and would like to hear the reasons why.
> >
> > I believe in using the right gear for the task at hand as well. If I
need
> > my big doubles for the dive I'm doing, I use them. If I need side
mounted
> > 95's for a sump dive, I use them. What ever it takes for the dive, thats
> > what I'll choose. I'm certain the few rec dives I do could be done with
an
> > alum 80, but I choose to have the redundancy for all my dives. Is that
so
> > wrong? <g>
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > By they way, I've heard a lot of folks don't like these tanks because
they
> > are to heavy. Anyone who does not like their oms 46 and wants to sell,
for
> > a low price, let me know how much.
> >
> >
> > "SILT HAPPENS"JD   JEFF DISLER
> > SAFE CAVING       NSS 26000
> >
>
>
>

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