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Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 19:03:45 -0700
To: Jeff Disler <pdisler@io*.ne*>, Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>,
     Art Greenberg
From: "Kevin Connell" <kevin@nw*.co*>
Subject: Re: Cave doubles
Cc: Cam Banks <cam@ca*.co*>,
     Techdiver Mailing List
Jim - this is getting pretty funny.  I own a set of 46's and I certainly 
don't have any desire to band them together because I am too much of a 
pussy to carry 104's or I think they are a better solution than a single 80.

Better than "cave doubles", how about "The Greenberg Solution"

Actually, what I'm planning on doing is duct-taping 6 AL13's together in a 
"star" configuration for full redundancy for reef diving in the tropics.

At 04:07 PM 4/10/2000 -0400, Jim Cobb wrote:
>Jeff-
>
>As I told Maggie and Art, if you have the money go ahead and get "OMS 46
>doubles", I just think that your money is better spent on a set of 95's or
>104's which would wind up costing about the same and offer much more
>utility.
>
>Every time I get passionate arguments for gear like this, I tend to suspect
>it's because A) they actually own the piece of sh, er, equipment in question
>and don't want to look like a knucklehead on the next dive trip, or B) they
>are about to unload the piece of sh, er, equipment in question on the
>unsuspecting masses and don't want me to ruin the market.
>
>In this case the bottom has fallen out of the OMS steel 46 stage market due
>to their close proximity to several dead divers over the years and dozens of
>techies and marketers are desperately trying to come up with ways to get rid
>of these ridiculously expensive crappy POS. And the poor suckers thought
>they found salvation in the new "OMS 46 doubles" market.
>
>PULL! BANG! Dusted that sucker!
>
>But, Jeff, I will give you that if you are belly-crawling through caves and
>need a low-profile air source, then "OMS 46 Doubles" are ideal for that
>particular, narrow, targeted, unique, singular situation... Let's call them
>"cave doubles."
>
>Best Regards-
>
>    Jim
>
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> > From: Jeff Disler <pdisler@io*.ne*>
> > Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:55:34 -0500
> > To: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>, Art Greenberg 
> <artg@ec*.ne*>, Jim
> > Cobb <cobber@ma*.ci*.co*>
> > Cc: Cam Banks <cam@ca*.co*>, Techdiver Mailing List
> > <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > Subject: Re: Dual OMS 45's
> >
> > C'mon Jim,
> >
> > Don't close your mind to the possibility that small doubles, (OMS 46's)
> > might be a better set up than a single eighty for simple dives. Probably
> > most (on this list anyway) are already using the same backplate and wings
> > they use for their large doubles, to dive an Al 80 with an single tank
> > adaptor. So for those who already have these tanks ( I already use them for
> > sump diving because, IMO, they are the best small tank for sump diving) why
> > not just them for as small doubles as well. They really don't weigh anymore
> > than an solo 80, except for the additional first stage. They don't go way
> > positive when near empty. They are easy to swim up from depth without the
> > aid of inflation. They fit closer to the back than an aluminim 80. I don't
> > think they have as much drag, certainly not any more than an alum 80. These
> > are just a few things about the tanks I like.
> >
> > Things that I think we should all like, at least tolerate, or could just
> > get use to about the 46 doubles:
> > Hell you're covered if you blow a neck O-ring, if a reg fails (first or
> > second), if your buddy needs a bit more gas when his system goes boom
> > catastrophically or just plain ol' fails , and You simply have more gas,
> > which, too much of never hurts.
> >
> > I agree, probably most people don't need to go out and spend the bucks on
> > dual 46's. But I'll bet if you actually dived my dual 46's you'd prefer
> > them over a single eighty. If you did not like them better, I'd be suprised
> > and would like to hear the reasons why.
> >
> > I believe in using the right gear for the task at hand as well. If I need
> > my big doubles for the dive I'm doing, I use them. If I need side mounted
> > 95's for a sump dive, I use them. What ever it takes for the dive, thats
> > what I'll choose. I'm certain the few rec dives I do could be done with an
> > alum 80, but I choose to have the redundancy for all my dives. Is that so
> > wrong? <g>
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > By they way, I've heard a lot of folks don't like these tanks because they
> > are to heavy. Anyone who does not like their oms 46 and wants to sell, for
> > a low price, let me know how much.
> >
> >
> > "SILT HAPPENS"JD   JEFF DISLER
> > SAFE CAVING       NSS 26000
> >
>
>
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  Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*>

  NW Labor Systems, Inc
  http://www.nwls.com

  Pluralitas non est ponenda sine neccesitate.
  (plurality should not be posited without
   necessity - Occam's razor)


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