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Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 16:07:21 -0400
Subject: Re: Cave doubles
From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ma*.ci*.co*>
To: Jeff Disler <pdisler@io*.ne*>, Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>,
     Art Greenberg
CC: Cam Banks <cam@ca*.co*>,
     Techdiver Mailing List
Jeff-

As I told Maggie and Art, if you have the money go ahead and get "OMS 46
doubles", I just think that your money is better spent on a set of 95's or
104's which would wind up costing about the same and offer much more
utility.

Every time I get passionate arguments for gear like this, I tend to suspect
it's because A) they actually own the piece of sh, er, equipment in question
and don't want to look like a knucklehead on the next dive trip, or B) they
are about to unload the piece of sh, er, equipment in question on the
unsuspecting masses and don't want me to ruin the market.

In this case the bottom has fallen out of the OMS steel 46 stage market due
to their close proximity to several dead divers over the years and dozens of
techies and marketers are desperately trying to come up with ways to get rid
of these ridiculously expensive crappy POS. And the poor suckers thought
they found salvation in the new "OMS 46 doubles" market.

PULL! BANG! Dusted that sucker!

But, Jeff, I will give you that if you are belly-crawling through caves and
need a low-profile air source, then "OMS 46 Doubles" are ideal for that
particular, narrow, targeted, unique, singular situation... Let's call them
"cave doubles."

Best Regards-

   Jim

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> From: Jeff Disler <pdisler@io*.ne*>
> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:55:34 -0500
> To: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>, Art Greenberg <artg@ec*.ne*>, Jim
> Cobb <cobber@ma*.ci*.co*>
> Cc: Cam Banks <cam@ca*.co*>, Techdiver Mailing List
> <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Subject: Re: Dual OMS 45's
> 
> C'mon Jim,
> 
> Don't close your mind to the possibility that small doubles, (OMS 46's)
> might be a better set up than a single eighty for simple dives. Probably
> most (on this list anyway) are already using the same backplate and wings
> they use for their large doubles, to dive an Al 80 with an single tank
> adaptor. So for those who already have these tanks ( I already use them for
> sump diving because, IMO, they are the best small tank for sump diving) why
> not just them for as small doubles as well. They really don't weigh anymore
> than an solo 80, except for the additional first stage. They don't go way
> positive when near empty. They are easy to swim up from depth without the
> aid of inflation. They fit closer to the back than an aluminim 80. I don't
> think they have as much drag, certainly not any more than an alum 80. These
> are just a few things about the tanks I like.
> 
> Things that I think we should all like, at least tolerate, or could just
> get use to about the 46 doubles:
> Hell you're covered if you blow a neck O-ring, if a reg fails (first or
> second), if your buddy needs a bit more gas when his system goes boom
> catastrophically or just plain ol' fails , and You simply have more gas,
> which, too much of never hurts.
> 
> I agree, probably most people don't need to go out and spend the bucks on
> dual 46's. But I'll bet if you actually dived my dual 46's you'd prefer
> them over a single eighty. If you did not like them better, I'd be suprised
> and would like to hear the reasons why.
> 
> I believe in using the right gear for the task at hand as well. If I need
> my big doubles for the dive I'm doing, I use them. If I need side mounted
> 95's for a sump dive, I use them. What ever it takes for the dive, thats
> what I'll choose. I'm certain the few rec dives I do could be done with an
> alum 80, but I choose to have the redundancy for all my dives. Is that so
> wrong? <g>
> 
> Regards
> 
> By they way, I've heard a lot of folks don't like these tanks because they
> are to heavy. Anyone who does not like their oms 46 and wants to sell, for
> a low price, let me know how much.
> 
> 
> "SILT HAPPENS"JD   JEFF DISLER
> SAFE CAVING       NSS 26000
> 


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